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hsseppo
17-02-2005, 17:20
Hi all,

Here is the first report of my new home made receiver. The receiver has AD8099 amplifier, AD9951 DDS, AD831 mixer. Antenna is a 5 meter long oudoor wire.

73, Seppo

Per
20-02-2005, 12:04
Hi,

Time 10:01 - 12:00 UTC.
Result CDA: 74 %.
There was strong interference from 15435 kHz starting @ 11:44.

simone
20-02-2005, 20:34
Hi all,
good results as usual, some interference until 1100, see attachment
73, Simone

hsseppo
21-02-2005, 19:51
Hi,

Yes good results, as usual this 15440 kHz in Helsinki.
12:37 - 13:57 UTC

Seppo

hsseppo
22-02-2005, 14:44
Hi!

Here is a report at 8:00 - 13:58 UTC. I am testing AD9951&AD831 radio to Sony ICF-2001D. Both are working well, only 1.4% difference.

Seppo

midre
11-03-2005, 22:46
Hi DRMs,

here are my 6 hour logfile from Sines on 15440 kHz. Quite stable signal, a short break at 1200.
Indoor reception with modified Sony SW 1.

regards, Michael

hsseppo
12-03-2005, 13:58
Hi!

Stable and good as usual.

8:00 - 8:59 UTC 100%

Seppo

df8uo
12-03-2005, 15:19
Strong and stable signal also here (Average SNR of 31 dB). Audio dropouts probably due to local effects (too high input level to sound device)
73
Daniel

Per
19-03-2005, 10:30
Hi,

Strong signal most of the time, but there was also interference from a carrier on the center frequency. See insert.
Time: 08:30 - 10:22 UTC.
Result: CDA 89%.

carknue
20-03-2005, 16:19
Hi all,

Dream is a bit too optimistic with this graph. It looks perfect, but it wasn't. Between 9:00 and 11:00 UTC I heard several dropouts caused by interference on 15440 kHz from CRI, which cannot be seen in the graph. This interfernce is known since 2 years now and still nothing happens.

simone
23-03-2005, 16:37
Hi all,
no problems with the usual co channel interference this morning as the signal was pretty strong, see attachment
73, Simone

df8uo
24-03-2005, 17:56
Hi all,

average SNR >30 dB during 170 min.

73

Daniel

df8uo
25-03-2005, 13:16
Hi all,

low SNR mainly due to co-channel interference in the morning.

73

Daniel

TimoHannes
25-03-2005, 13:29
Hi !
Yesterdays result at 08:00 - 13:58 UTC.

hsseppo
25-03-2005, 14:43
Hi all,

15440 kHz at 12:17 - 13:58 98%, fading and interference.

Seppo

simone
26-03-2005, 16:24
Hi all,
what a bad start this morning, see attachment
73, Simone

hsseppo
26-03-2005, 19:31
Hi all,

In Helsinki it was pretty well. At 8:15 - 8:58 100%

Seppo

hsseppo
27-03-2005, 19:34
Hi!

15440 kHz at 13:29 - 14:57 UTC 99%

Seppo

df8uo
28-03-2005, 16:36
Hi all,

perfect for 4 h (100% audio) and average SNR of almost 33 dB.

73

Daniel

carknue
28-03-2005, 19:15
Very bad beginning this morning. I hardly can remember such low levels from Sines. Before 8:15 there was no signal from Sines here at all. First I thought that there was a TX problem, but then the signal slightly increased to it's normal strong level.

simone
30-03-2005, 16:14
Hi all,
again a weak start from Sines this morning, see attachment
73, Simone

df8uo
31-03-2005, 13:03
Hi all,

today strong signal here the first hour.

73

Daniel

dk8cb
01-04-2005, 11:15
Perfect with a strong signal.

Roland

df9rb
03-04-2005, 14:38
Today I logged 15440 and 15545 simultaneous. 15440 with the TS850, 15545 with the Sangean both on the same antenna.
The maximum SNR of the Sangean is limited to 28 dB.

Bernd, DF9RB

Victor
04-04-2005, 04:15
My results for some days.

Victor
04-04-2005, 04:20
My results for some days.

Victor
04-04-2005, 04:29
My results for some days.

simone
06-04-2005, 13:49
Hi all,
quite stable signal this morning using the Sony SW1, see attachment
73, Simone

simone
07-04-2005, 13:57
Hi all,
good results for indoor reception this morning, see attachment
73, Simone

hsseppo
10-04-2005, 16:53
Hi all,

Average SNR 32 dB, 100% decoded at 11:44 - 14:05 UTC

73, Seppo

hsseppo
11-04-2005, 20:21
Hi,

strong as usual

Seppo

hsseppo
12-04-2005, 19:28
Hi,

Strong and stable (28 minutes),

Seppo

simone
12-04-2005, 20:21
Hi all,
strong signal all day but as always co-channel interference in the first two hours, see attachment
73, Simone

hsseppo
14-04-2005, 13:30
Hi all,

strong signal today in Helsinki. Max SNR 35 dB.

Seppo

carknue
17-04-2005, 19:05
Strong and perfect.

df8uo
24-04-2005, 16:48
Hi all,
quite strong signal as usual.
73
Daniel

dk8cb
27-04-2005, 23:55
As always, a strong signal without any dropouts.

Unfortunately, my receiver does not allow a better SNR but nevertheless, reception is perfect.

Roland

dk8cb
29-04-2005, 11:11
Hi,

as always, a strong signal but interruptions for tune-ups today.

Roland

hsseppo
30-04-2005, 11:02
Hi,

Strong as usual 59 minutes 99.9 CDA.

73, Seppo

mitajohn
05-05-2005, 15:25
Hi All,

Not bad reception in Athens. Sound very good.

John

Baldo34
05-05-2005, 18:15
17:15 UTC and 15440 is still on air. :confused:
73, Klaus

mitajohn
10-05-2005, 14:42
HI,
Reception as always. Look at log.
John

dk8cb
12-05-2005, 22:10
Hi,

good reception, but signal was by far not as strong as usual.

Roland

hsseppo
14-05-2005, 16:13
Hi,

strong and stable as usual in Helsinki, at 08:00 - 11:15 UTC.

73, Seppo

hsseppo
14-05-2005, 16:15
Hi,

still strong at 13:24 - 14:56 UTC,

Seppo

mitajohn
15-05-2005, 15:22
Hi,

For 70mins it was good but then low SNR and dropouts.

john

mitajohn
16-05-2005, 13:11
Hi,

I started earlier today. Not bad, but better in the last hour.
You can also see that around 11:00, although the SNR was 24dB, there was no audio.

John.

dk8cb
18-05-2005, 00:25
Hi,

signal these days is by far not as strong as it used to be some weeks ago but this is perhaps a result of summer conditions.

Roland

dk8cb
28-05-2005, 20:45
Good reception with a much better audio quality than others despite the low bitrate.
It seems, other stations do not achieve such a good audio quality even at 3 kbit/s more!

Roland

mitajohn
01-06-2005, 15:37
Hi,

Bad reception today. Signal lost after about 30 mins.

John

mitajohn
02-06-2005, 14:22
Hi,

It started good, but after 6 mins signal lost.

John

dk8cb
08-06-2005, 16:56
Quite good today.

Roland

hsseppo
09-06-2005, 15:43
Hi,
Also today quite good. 59 minutes.
73, Seppo

carknue
10-06-2005, 22:33
Perfect.

I wonder what caused these two dropouts? I think it was the powermangement of my notebook.

df8uo
11-06-2005, 12:28
Hi all,
find attached my log from this morning. In the graph there are 2 SNR curves. The reference (red) is my standard equipment (FT757GX with dipole antenna). As i have currently a DWT for testing i used the DWT with its 5 m wire supplied (just thrown the wire outside the window). The green SNR curve is the result. Tommorrow i will test both, using the same antenna.
73, Daniel

@carknue: Hi Carsten, currently i am using for parallel monitoring also a laptop. As soon as the power management is turned on (even only for the display), Dream SW freezes sometimes, when the display is switched off. I switched all power management options off, no more problems.
BTW: I am using XP Prof + SP2

@dk8cb: 2nd audio added ;-)

dk8cb
11-06-2005, 12:38
Originally posted by df8uo
In the graph there are 2 SNR curves.

Hi,

but where did you put the yellow graph showing correctly decoded audio on the DWT?

Roland

carknue
11-06-2005, 13:56
Hmm, I disabled display switching off, but the problem seems to be the dynamic CPU switching. Dream has a much higher CPU load than DRMSWR, so I need different tresholds for the DRMSWR. Does someone know a tool for fixing the Centrino CPU speed to 0.8 Ghz? I have only a tool for 0.6 and 1.6 GHz or dynamic switching.

df8uo
12-06-2005, 14:31
Hi all,
find attached todays result, using the DWT with my dipole antenna. Much better than yesterday using the 5 m wire antenna.
For comparison i added the result from yesterday (green/yellow).
73, Daniel

hsseppo
15-06-2005, 20:49
Hi all,

15440 kHz at 08:46 - 09:23 UTC at Sysmä (about 200 km north of Helsinki)

Seppo

hsseppo
15-06-2005, 20:51
Hi all,

next part of my report. At 12:03 - 14:59 UTC

73, Seppo

dk8cb
15-06-2005, 20:59
Signal was weaker than usual today.

Roland

hsseppo
16-06-2005, 16:09
Hi all,

strong as usual. It is amazing how stable and strong this frequency is in Finland. Over 3000 km and almost always near 100% CDA.

Best Regards, Seppo

hsseppo
18-06-2005, 16:40
Hi,

Dream version 1.2.4 has better bandpass filter than version 1.2.2.

Version changes reads:
" improved bandpass filter for receiver -> better interfere rejection
BUT: under normal conditions, this filter will degrade the performance a little bit since it attenuates the OFDM carriers at the borders a bit"

I was running two Dreams, version 1.2.4, the first bandpass filter OFF the second bandpass filter ON. The differency was only 0.1% during 261 minutes.

73, Seppo

dk8cb
18-06-2005, 16:59
Originally posted by hsseppo
The differency was only 0.1% during 261 minutes.


The improvement depends very much upon the sort of interference encountered. The improved bandpass filter is especially effective in case of interference signals that occur at the edges of the DRM spectrum.

Roland

hsseppo
18-06-2005, 18:20
Hi Roland,

Yes, I agree, bandpass filter is a very good option.

I wanted to know how much bandbass filter degrade the performance. I have noticed that edges of the DRM spectrum are also filtered a little. My test above shows that the filter can be ON always, as it in good conditions degrades only 0.1 %

73, Seppo

dk8cb
18-06-2005, 19:45
Originally posted by hsseppo
My test above shows that the filter can be ON always, as it in good conditions degrades only 0.1 %

Hi Seppo, now I understand your intentions.

The filter may always be on if CPU-load and power consumption don't play a role.
It also still has to be investigated whether the filter will perhaps have a negative effect in the presence of broadband noise pulses which might be stretched by the filter's response.

Roland

dk8cb
18-06-2005, 21:36
Very good until another station came on 3 minutes before the end of transmission.

Signal was weaker than usual at the beginning of my logging period but became strong towards the end.


Roland

dk8cb
21-06-2005, 16:39
Hi,

good reception as usual.

Roland

dk8cb
22-06-2005, 16:13
Perfect. Sines' signal gained 30 dB in strength during my listening period.

Roland

hsseppo
22-06-2005, 16:19
Hi all,

99,8% CDA. Strong signal as usual.

Seppo

Per
25-06-2005, 12:25
Hi,

Also here perfect result! Listening for three hours with a total of 99 % CDA.

dk8cb
25-06-2005, 20:18
Good reception in Munich as well but not with a strong signal, much weaker than it used to be in spring.

Roland

hsseppo
26-06-2005, 18:37
Hi,

good as always.

Seppo

dk8cb
27-06-2005, 21:41
Not a very strong signal but perfect reception.

Roland

dk8cb
28-06-2005, 10:28
Hi,

at about 0923UTC today, there were three short interruptions of the DRM signal which obviously were TX or data stream related.
Just before it, signal strength had fallen to a much lower level than before but this may just be related to propagation conditions.

See attached waterfall plot for a recording of the interruptions in the DRM data stream.

Could an airplane have crossed the line between the satellite and Sines' satellite dish?

Roland

dk8cb
28-06-2005, 11:00
Hi,

and here is my report.

Roland

hsseppo
29-06-2005, 18:28
Hi all,

I was testing again Sony ICF-2001D radio and my "home made" DRM-radio. At the same input level -60 dBm Sony has second order distance of IM -30 dB and my DRM-radio has -55 dB. The maximum SNR with Sony is 28 dB and DDS-DRM has 51 dB. Also I calculated DDS-DRM mixer IP3 18dBm. (1 dB mixer compression Point = +8 dBm --> IP3 = 10+8 dBm)

DDS-DRM-RX has much better specs than Sony but the result is almost the same. Strong field as this 15440 kHz results 100% both, weaker signal 18-19 dB SNR, like 7265kHz today, has the differency only 3%

73, Seppo

hsseppo
01-07-2005, 15:52
Hi all,

99.8 CDA, 12:30 - 14:36 UTC, max SNR 33.2 dB

73, Seppo

dk8cb
01-07-2005, 19:56
Just a short report.

Roland

FritzWue
02-07-2005, 11:39
...always a good signal:

dk8cb
02-07-2005, 14:33
Hi,

not as strong today as I have seen it before. A carrier could be seen right on channel quite often.

Roland

FritzWue
03-07-2005, 15:29
This frequency is one of my references, was stronger before, but still good signal.

dk8cb
04-07-2005, 15:11
Quite good again.

Roland

dk8cb
08-07-2005, 18:17
Hi,

quite good but after 09:32, no audio was transmitted for a period of about 8 minutes. Reception was however perfect during that time amd MSC was decoded perfectly.

Roland.

FritzWue
09-07-2005, 13:33
Perfect as most time, always good skip.

carknue
09-07-2005, 21:12
Perfect, but the impulse response had 3 peaks today, quite unusual for this frequency...

FritzWue
11-07-2005, 14:47
Good as always.

dk8cb
12-07-2005, 11:10
Hi,

signal is by far not as strong as it used to be in winter and in spring but reception is still quite good.

Roland

FritzWue
13-07-2005, 15:44
Not so strong today, still 100% audio.

dk8cb
14-07-2005, 11:06
Hi,

not really a strong signal today. There was an interruption of the DRM signal at around 08:55 UTC.

Roland

hsseppo
15-07-2005, 15:07
Hi,

15440 kHz in Helsinki today.

73, Seppo

hsseppo
15-07-2005, 16:46
Hi,

47 minutes more, at 14:09 - 14:56,

Seppo

hsseppo
16-07-2005, 16:03
Hi all,

Strong signal in Helsinki. 395 minutes (6h35m) 100%

Seppo

carknue
16-07-2005, 18:32
Also 100% here in Frankfurt.

FritzWue
16-07-2005, 18:59
Strong variations in SNR this morning here, only 99.9%. :rolleyes:

FritzWue
17-07-2005, 13:32
33.6dB 100% today

FritzWue
18-07-2005, 13:14
"Only" 99.9%... :(

hsseppo
20-07-2005, 12:09
Hi,

Again 100%, two hours.

Seppo

dk8cb
20-07-2005, 21:26
Signal strength went up and down a lot today.

Roland

dk8cb
21-07-2005, 11:09
Hi,

today, Sines' signal did not fluctuate as much as it did yesterday.

Roland

FritzWue
22-07-2005, 19:13
The last 30 minutes:

dk8cb
22-07-2005, 19:47
Hi,

as it should be.

Roland

FritzWue
23-07-2005, 14:12
Nice as usual, 100%, 32.3dB:

carknue
23-07-2005, 15:35
Perfect as usual.

hsseppo
23-07-2005, 16:41
Hi,

almost perfect, 99.8% CDA.

Seppo

dk8cb
25-07-2005, 11:01
Hi,

very good reception, however, signal strength went up and down by at least 40 dB.

Roland

dk8cb
26-07-2005, 22:20
Hi,

signal was strong today.
During the dropout, Sines transmitted in AM for a short time, then there was only a carrier and it looked a bit like the TX was being retuned.

Roland

CT4RK
27-07-2005, 20:15
Hi Roland

You listen in AM because in this transmitter we have an old DRM encoder. So the transmitter need tune first after shuttdown and at the moment the audio source from sattelite was conected. This is above 30 seconds of carrier transmission, and next shutdown and start again in DRM mode, with all the automatic tuning system stoped.
This happen, when we change the antenna, or need make other operation like maintenance. In this transmission, we had change the transmitter because the normal transmitter that send in 15440 MHz was in maintenance.

dk8cb
29-07-2005, 11:03
Hi,

there was occasional on-channel interference.
During moments of fading, a carrier was visible on 15440 kHz.

Roland

dk8cb
29-07-2005, 11:05
Hi,

again not a strong signal with occasional on-channel interference.

Looks as if the skip is sometimes a bit in favour of the far distant on-channel station.

Roland

dk8cb
30-07-2005, 19:02
Hi,

during the last few minutes, a very strong carrier appeared on 15435 kHz and audio could no longer be decoded.

Roland

dk8cb
01-08-2005, 22:12
Hi,

I have seen days with a stronger signal but it was still quite ok.

Roland

dk8cb
03-08-2005, 12:03
Perfect.

Roland

dk8cb
04-08-2005, 11:42
Hi,

at 09:10 UTC, there was a short interruption of the RF signal.

Roland

DK3SML
05-08-2005, 10:45
Hi,
low SNR, but good continuous signal:D

cu Michael, DK3SML

dk8cb
05-08-2005, 10:48
Hi,

good, as always.

Roland

dk8cb
05-08-2005, 11:03
Originally posted by DK3SML
low SNR....

Hi Michael,

this is most likely a problem of the receiver or one of home-made interference.
To improve it (in case of home-made interference):

- put an RF choke (ferrite toroid core) into the audio cable from RX to PC, preferably on both sides.

- prevent coupling from the mains into your receiver (again using a toroid choke).

- if you are using a "Wall wart" power supply, make sure, its rectifier diodes are bypassed for RF by 10 nF capacitors.

- have a look at this old thread
http://www.drmrx.org/forum/showthread.php?&threadid=869.

Roland

Per
06-08-2005, 12:07
Hi,

The ever reliable Sines and 15 MHz!
Three solid hours, with start at 08:00 UTC.

hsseppo
06-08-2005, 16:20
Hi,

Yes, 15440 kHz is stable and strong. 15435 kHz (Saudi Arabia) was also very strong killing carrier index 0-20. 15435 kHz was about -50dBm. My radio can handle levels -40 dBm to -130 dBm at antenna input. (6 mVp-p - 0.2 uVp-p)

73, Seppo

hsseppo
07-08-2005, 16:10
Hello All,

Sines 15440kHz was perfect again in Helsinki. SNR max. 36.9 dB. CDA 99.9% at 8:30 - 14:56 UTC.

Seppo

dk8cb
08-08-2005, 09:58
Just a short report.

Roland

dk8cb
09-08-2005, 11:02
Strong signal, however, during moments of selective fading, an on-channel carrier could sometimes be seen on the spectrum display.

Roland

FritzWue
11-08-2005, 16:06
Today's log, good signal as always.

dk8cb
11-08-2005, 23:19
Strong signal but also fast and deep fades.

Roland

dk8cb
12-08-2005, 11:17
Hi,

an unusually weak signal at the beginning. Signal later gained strength but there was still fast fading of the selective as well as the non-selective kind.

Roland

Digger
12-08-2005, 17:16
Hi all,

Wonderful reception today.

73 de Terje

hsseppo
12-08-2005, 18:30
Hi,

Strong signal in Helsinki, too. 100% audio. Max. SNR 35.6dB

Seppo

dk8cb
13-08-2005, 13:43
Hi,

at times, signal was a bit weaker than usual. At the end of my logging period, an on-channel carrier was often visible, especially during moments with selective fading affecting the centre frequency of the DRM signal.

Roland

Andreas
16-08-2005, 19:17
just perfect today!

Andreas

df8uo
17-08-2005, 15:19
Hi all,
attached my log from today, trying the max SNR to get with a different modification of my FT757.
73, Daniel

Digger
17-08-2005, 15:30
Hi all,

Here is my log from around 0947 UTC and two hours onward. I wonder what mods Daniel has made to his RX?... I got a stable 32 dB SNR for most part of the logging.

73
Terje

dk8cb
19-08-2005, 10:55
Hi,

there were two interruptions in the transmitted stream, one at 08:23 UTC, the other about a minute later.

Roland

FritzWue
21-08-2005, 12:31
Good signal:

dk8cb
23-08-2005, 11:06
Signal strength went up and down a lot today.

Roland

Andreas
23-08-2005, 16:27
Hi !

Excellent results here once again.
:)

Switching over to 15265 kHz meant but a loss of 1.2 dB only (see short logfile there).

73, Andreas

dk8cb
24-08-2005, 11:40
Hi,

signal in Munich was much weaker than usual today and an on-channel carrier, presumably another far-away AM station, could often be seen on the spectrum plot.

Roland

dk8cb
26-08-2005, 10:44
Hi,

today, there were interruptions and switching between normal, Celp+ and Journaline services, so the plot looks strange.

Roland

CT4RK
26-08-2005, 11:51
Hi all
Yes! We are testing between 2 transmitters, and also testing the signal input at differents formats.

Digger
26-08-2005, 12:35
Hi all,

I noticed the interruptions and started logging just after 9 UT. Here my log for today's segment.

73 de
Terje

Per
27-08-2005, 11:41
Hi,

Today I noticed that DW was broadcasting in stereo. Plus DW Slideshow and DW-WORLD.DE

Two large interruptions; 09 and 10 UTC!

dk8cb
27-08-2005, 16:07
Hi,

voices on this stereo transmission sounded perfect, quite unlike on DW stereo transmissions from Taldom. I have posted comments on Taldom's voice stereo quality several times but no one seems to want to comment. Do a lot of people listen on crappy PC speakers where one just doesn't notice?

Reception was perfect until shortly before the end of transmission, when a much stronger arabic station appeared on 15435 and killed everything.

Roland

hsseppo
28-08-2005, 11:04
Hi all,

There was a 5 minute test of 3000 frames/min at 09:00. Average SNR 31dB.

73, Seppo

Per
28-08-2005, 12:08
Originally posted by Per

Two large interruptions; 09 and 10 UTC!

The interruptions being dual language news casts; CELP.

df9rb
30-08-2005, 12:49
Hi all,

I received 15440 (1st graph) and 15545 (2nd graph) with two receivers sharing the same antenna.

Bernd, DF9RB

df9rb
31-08-2005, 13:49
Hi all,

stable like a local station.

Bernd, DF9RB

Sixten
05-09-2005, 16:24
Great reception in Sweden today!

I get more than 30db out of the signal with my IC-R70 and home made DRM IF + 12Khz Mixer. My S-meter peak S9+30dB

Like SUPER loka FM sound.
Update my DRM web.
http://web.telia.com/~u85910238/DRM_screen_dumps_SM5DAJ.htm

iw0hk
09-09-2005, 07:59
Hello,
here is my "fm-style" reception of DW in Roma Italy,

Wishes, Andrea

FritzWue
10-09-2005, 12:22
Strong fluctuations and low fieldstrength during my saturday morning shopping tour with four stops that you can see in the diagram. There was always some interference or a roof where i found a parking place.
The long dropout occured when parking in front of a shop with high power low voltage illumination.

Sixten
10-09-2005, 16:51
Hi all .

Her is my super report from DW my S meter swing from S8 to S9+30Db.


Her is my log from last 55 min. to DW stop transmission.

Digger
12-09-2005, 13:51
Hi all,

At 0800 there was no SDC or MSC, but the SNR was OK. Just after a quarter past 8 UT they found the modulation knob ;) . The signal was not as strong a usual, the Channel Impulse Response was one distinct impulse and the SNR was about 23 dB. Usually I record up to >30 dB, perhaps it is "weather" related...

Enclosed is the report over one hour until 0909 UTC.

73
Terje

Digger
14-09-2005, 14:13
Hi all,

Super reception again today.

73s

Terje

FritzWue
17-09-2005, 14:26
Essen center - B224 - A02 - A31 - 48712 Gescher

Good reception starting downtown Essen driving home.

For comparison see reception the same way in the other direction on 1440kHz mediumwave:
http://www.drmrx.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=20756#post20756

hsseppo
18-09-2005, 19:01
Hi,

A strange thing happened today at 08:56 UTC. Sines was very strong, max. SNR 37.7 dB but suddenly a very strong 15443kHz carrier wave killed DRM completely. The other signal was fading 10 to 30 dB over the Sines transmission. I just don't understand where it came from. I was not able to find any image or harmonic frequencies of my receiver suitable to this carrier wave, so I think it was really very a strong 15443 kHz carrier. Did anybody else noticed this interference?

73, Seppo

FritzWue
27-09-2005, 16:36
Good results from 48135 Muenster to 48712 Gescher:

Digger
28-09-2005, 17:21
Hi,

Very good reception as most of the time on this frequency from this direction.

Enclosed is the log for one hour from 1150 - 1300 UTC.


Terje

carknue
01-10-2005, 13:17
Perfect results with DWT. But Dream is very tolerant in logging;)

Digger
01-10-2005, 13:50
Hi,

Roughly the same segment here in Switzerland: See the enclosed log...


Terje

carknue
02-10-2005, 20:56
Seven hours of perfect indoor reception with the DWT. But DW should improve the sound quality. I would suggest Mode A with 23.6 kbps. Should work fine with such a strong and stable signal.

Digger
05-10-2005, 20:12
Hi,

15 MHz is very good from Sines at my location.

Terje

Per
08-10-2005, 10:51
Hi,

Also at my location 15 MHz from Sines gives, as usual, a very good result. But what happend at 08:51 UTC?

Text msg "Mehr Infos unter: www.dw-world.de/drm"

hsseppo
10-10-2005, 14:57
Hi,

15440 kHz was strong and stable as usual. 170 minutes 100% There was at the same frequency 15440 kHz AM-modulated carrier wave fading +-10 dB over the DRM wave killing some of the center DRM carriers, but still 100% audio was decoded. DRM is really working very good!

Seppo

FritzWue
14-10-2005, 16:24
Going from 48712 Gescher to 40477 Duesseldorf center:

carknue
15-10-2005, 16:04
5 hours perfect reception with DWT.

Per
16-10-2005, 10:44
Hi,

95 minutes of excellent reception!
DW & 15 MHz = perfect DRM.

simone
16-10-2005, 18:52
Hi all,
some interference but no problem with the DWT and indoor loop antenna
Simone

Digger
21-10-2005, 17:31
Hi,

A short log - tuned in too late... But perfect.

Terje

carknue
22-10-2005, 16:02
Once again perfect with DWT and indoor loop.

dk8cb
22-10-2005, 18:28
Very good until an extremely strong AM station came on on 15435 kHz shortly before the end of Sines' transmission.

Roland

df9rb
23-10-2005, 10:24
Comparing indoor-antenna (Degen SW-Loop, 2nd graph) with my outdoor-antennas.
1st graph:
first 10 minutes EWE - Degen is better!
next 15 minutes ALA1530
till the end 3 ele Ham Yagi

Bernd, DF9RB

mitajohn
23-10-2005, 16:31
Hi all,

This is a result after my last ones about 5 months ago, when I stopped logging on this frequency due to bad reception caused by weak signals and interference problems.
Today the signal seemed enough strong but with deep fading.
Interference started towards the end which got worst at the end of the log. See attachment.

John.

carknue
23-10-2005, 17:39
Again perfect results with DWT indoor. The problems at the begining could have been Notebook related.

FritzWue
25-10-2005, 16:45
Also good mobile results.
Driving from 48155 Muenster to 48712 Gescher with a 15min stop in the middle.
Shortwave is much better for mobile reception than mediumwave.
To the end problems with a strong carrier 5kHz down.

Digger
26-10-2005, 10:22
Hi,

Either the conditions went haywire or some carrier is present on this QRG after 0900 UTC? Usually this frequency offers super DRM reception...

A short log clearly shows the problem.

Terje


PS: The interference was gone by 1000 UTC

Digger
26-10-2005, 12:39
Hi agn,

Much better after 10 UTC. :)

Terje

Baldo34
30-10-2005, 08:18
Hi all,
very bad audio quality with 11,6 kbps.
AM sounds much better !
:mad:

73, Klaus

carknue
30-10-2005, 08:27
I also noticed very low bitrates on all DW frequencies this morning. If this will continue, I surely will not buy a DRM Radio. I think that even 17.4kbps p-stereo sounds not really good enough for a programme with high part of music like DW digital. Should be around 20kbps p-stereo or 17.4 kbps mono.

CT4RK
30-10-2005, 08:48
Hi all DRMs

In acordance with the new schedule Sines will be on the air in 15.440KHz from 08:00 to11:57, and from 12:00 to 13:00. All UTC of course.
About the sound quality, I was print your msg to send it to DW in Bonn, We in Sines Have no action in the BR , because the signal send from Bonn, in MDI format, have all parameters.

73 from CT4RK

Sines - Portugal

Baldo34
30-10-2005, 09:14
Hi Carlos,
according to the DW schedule 15440 is on air from 0800-1359. Is that correct?
73, Klaus

CT4RK
30-10-2005, 09:47
Hi Baldo

Yes is correct. I was post the information wrong. Sorry!
Efectivelly the 15.440KHz are from 8:00 to 13:59.:D

hsseppo
30-10-2005, 14:19
Hi all,

just a short report of 14.56 kbps bitrate mono audio. The audio quality was surprisingly good, definately much better than AM. The audio band was up to 5 kHz. My opinion is that this kind of audio quality is good enough for the short wave reception. I prefere a 100% decoded audio with lower quality better to a 89% decoded high quality stereo audio. If the decoded audio is less than 90 % I normally stop listening.

73, Seppo

Digger
30-10-2005, 15:31
Hi,

Here is an unattended report. One break was mentioned by Carlos, what was the other?

Good result, anyway.

Terje

hsseppo
31-10-2005, 13:41
Hi,

15440 kHz strong and stable as usual.

73, Seppo

Owdjim
02-11-2005, 19:23
15440 kHz is providing some very good reception at times here in New Zealand. See my example log from last night. 17700 is also quite good sometimes.

Cheers, Chris

mitajohn
03-11-2005, 14:05
Hi all,

A very good result for 50 mins.

John

Owdjim
05-11-2005, 12:05
Hi All

15440 kHz is providing very good reception here tonight, once China left the frequency. Journaline & Slideshow both decoding ok. Using DRT1.

Cheers, Chris

hsseppo
09-11-2005, 11:37
Hi all,

126 minutes of 15440 kHz, 99.5%

Seppo

hsseppo
10-11-2005, 12:35
Hi,
just a short report, 32 minutes.
Seppo

maxpower
10-11-2005, 13:03
Hmm, its a little bit of-topic, but i think it would be a good idea to place some internet-controlled receivers in the target areas and change the bitrates comparing to the live-reception results of the test-receivers automatically. so everyone could get a good realiabilty and the best sound quality for a given daily propagation.
Are there plans to do something like that?

Stephan

dk8cb
10-11-2005, 20:58
Originally posted by maxpower
... i think it would be a good idea to place some internet-controlled receivers in the target areas and change the bitrates comparing to the live-reception results of the test-receivers automatically. so everyone could get a good realiabilty and the best sound quality for a given daily propagation.

Such a system has already been used, it is known by the name of QoSAM (Quality of Service - AM). Have a look at this website (http://www.ist-qosam.com/start.htm). However, a signal may be received well at one location and bad at another or there may be interference at one place and a free channel at another.

Roland

maxpower
10-11-2005, 21:27
oh, yes. now i remember! but what have been the results? Did it work?and when, why isn't it used?

Sure i know there are more problems at shortwave than propergation. indeed in my opinion co-channel interference is the biggest problem of the drm-system. but thats another thing which you can only solve by using another frequency or - what i think would be better - drm only frequencies, like many dxer's want in order to lower drm-qrm on the analog bands. But that would be an itu issue.

stephan

Owdjim
12-11-2005, 12:09
Hi All

Excellent reception on 15440 kHz from 1100 to 1200 today. Full decoding of Journaline & Slideshow too. DRT1 receiver.

Cheers, Chris

mitajohn
13-11-2005, 18:23
Hi all,

A very good result to day.

John.

mitajohn
15-11-2005, 14:02
Hi all,

A pretty good result using DE31. See for yourself the log.

John.

simone
16-11-2005, 16:46
Hi all,
DW were broadcasting text messages in several languages, here is an example with the Arabic characters using DReaM, looked nice although I have no idea if it is correct or not ;)
Simone

Per
20-11-2005, 10:26
Hi,

No extra services today. Reception improved after 09:30 UTC.
Listening time: 09:05 - 10:21.
Result CDA: 92%.

FritzWue
23-11-2005, 20:13
Driving south from 48712 Gescher via A31-A2-A3.
Stopped listening near Duisburg because the sound quality was a pain in the ... ears. :rolleyes:
This was definetively not good enough for car stereo.

stegewicht
25-11-2005, 11:24
Hello,

a reception-report for 15440kHz DW.

regards
Mike

mitajohn
26-11-2005, 18:49
Hi all,

Here is a result for 50 mins.

John.

midre
27-11-2005, 17:04
Hi DRMs,

Sines on 15440 kHz, - perfect as usual!

regards, Michael

FritzWue
20-12-2005, 18:28
Driving from Muenster to Paderborn via Ahlen.

feinstei
21-12-2005, 13:20
Perfect reception (17.5 dB) with no dropouts whatsoever in Detroit, Michigan USA at 13:15 UTC on 21-December-2005. English language newscast.

Fredric E.
N8UC - Detroit, Michigan USA

df8uo
27-12-2005, 14:24
Hi all,
attached the result of this morning using two different radios. FT757 and outdoor antenna (blue/red curve) and my small SONY SW1 using only the integrated antenna (yellow/green)
73, Daniel

FritzWue
29-12-2005, 18:14
Driving from 48712 Gescher to Bochum via A31, A2, A43, A40.
Strong signal even in the tunnels, but sometimes an AM carrier right ontop of the signal although all clear 10kHz up and down.

FritzWue
29-12-2005, 18:15
Driving from Bochum to Essen on the A40, perfect!

mitajohn
31-12-2005, 12:48
Hi all,

A good result for 30 mins, then reception turned to very bad.

John.

hsseppo
06-01-2006, 14:02
Hi,

almost perfect, 48 minutes report.

Seppo

mitajohn
07-01-2006, 14:06
Hi all,

A very good result for about 20 mins today.

John.

simone
11-01-2006, 16:12
Hi all,
a weak and interfered signal this morning, don´t remember when I ever had such bad results on this transmission.
Simone

sveron
11-01-2006, 20:48
Hi,

Good results especially at the end of the reception despite lower audio quality during the music programme, but nice anyway... Slide show received 15 times between 11:00 and 12:10 UT. Logged with laptop connected to AC adaptor.

73, de Stephane

Per
14-01-2006, 11:59
Hi,

158 minutes of perfect reception! The Tx left the air at 11:56 UTC, to return at 12:00.

carknue
22-01-2006, 16:27
Perfect reception. SSP. Only interruptions due to mode changes.

mitajohn
26-01-2006, 15:09
Hi all,

A result for 60 mins today.

John.

df8uo
04-02-2006, 13:14
Hi all,
attached my result from this morning. Signal quite strong as usual.
73, Daniel

Sixten
04-02-2006, 17:20
Hi all.

My report from 030206 very strong signal S9 and slow QSB.

Digger
08-02-2006, 15:38
Hi all,

Good signal, perfect except for the interruption from 1336-1340 UTC, which did not show up on Sixten's graph...


Terje

Mitsuru Ito
14-02-2006, 09:01
I got few secs audio at first time.
SNR was less than 15dB.
Other comrade can get 20dB SNR in Tokyo.

Digger
17-02-2006, 11:15
Hi all,

Good as always. Interesting to see that the signal even goes all the way to my old QTH during the 80's - hi.

Terje

氷山

Sixten
17-02-2006, 14:10
Hi all.

Now is my best log her.

85 min and 99% CDA ok.
Antenna is now on the table on:) my altan.

Digger
24-02-2006, 16:23
Hi,

An hour plus with perfect reception.

Terje

carknue
25-02-2006, 13:46
Perfect, but why is this break? Bitrate after the break is not changed.

carknue
07-03-2006, 19:20
When should this transmission start? It is scheduled for 8 UTC, but not this morning:confused: There was a weak signal between 10 and 11 UTC.

CT4RK
08-03-2006, 16:04
Hi Carsten

this transmission is on air between 9:00 and 11:57 UTC. The propagation is the major problem. In the last month I had discovered a day with a ZERO SSN. So, no storm from sun but also no black spots in the sun, and no propagation. During the last 15 or 20 days MUF was realy lower than normal, and only a few hours a day are close to 15MHz. Normaly is around 7/9 MHz at night hours. In the last days, across the SW band I only listen a few and weak broadcasting stations in lower frequency segments. Also in Ham bands , in 14 MHz around 12:00 to 15:00 UTC we can listen stations , but normally from USA. Nothing from Europe.

Digger
09-03-2006, 14:26
Hi Carlos and all,

A very good day today except for a sudden drop in the signal strength around 1000 UTC ± 10 minutes. See plot for further comments.

Terje

carknue
09-03-2006, 19:30
Hi Carlos and all,

Very strange thing happend yesterday. After the usual 5 min break, the signal strength was 15 dB lower, but no change in SNR:confused:.

Carlos, what is changed after this break at 11:55 UTC? Transmitter change?

No change today.

Digger
10-03-2006, 14:35
Hi,

Very weak with co-channel AM QRM inthe beginning, then good until about 1050 UTC, when the signal got weaker again, with AM on the same QRG.

Terje

CT4RK
11-03-2006, 01:28
Hi Carsten

I was not in the station in this hour, because, this week I´m working from 16:00 to 24:00, but I today I was asked about this and the drop in the signal was caused by antenna change, from a courtain antenna to a log periodic vertical polarized antenna, because the workers that are assembling the new courtain for 4 MHz band, was closed to the courtain antenna that normaly running 15440 KHz.
But the propagation is also so bad. Today, I my yaesu FT1000MP MKV worked like no antenna conected!...No signals, no noise, nothing...A strange silence along all Ham bands. One Ham station was arrived on 7085 KHz from North Spain strangely strong, (45 dBuV) runing 1 KW. I called this station EA1PL, and make a bilateral contact with a strong signal. ( I run also a Kw). But the starnge is no more stations I can heard in SW band...:confused:
We are realy in "zero ground" of 11 years cycle.For almost the entire month of February 2006 the sun was utterly blank. If Galileo had looked at the sun on his 442nd birthday, he would have been disappointed—no sunspots, no spin, no discovery.:(

Looks what says SpaceWeather about the propagation:

What's going on? NASA solar physicist David Hathaway explains: "Solar minimum has arrived."

Sunspots come and go with an 11-year rhythm called the sunspot cycle. At the cycle's peak, solar maximum, the sun is continually peppered with spots, some as big as the planet Jupiter. But for every peak there is a valley, and during solar minimum months can go by without a single sunspot.

"That's where we are now—at minimum," says Hathaway.

Actually, we're at the beginning of the minimum. February 2006 was the first month in almost ten years with mostly no sunspots. For 21 of February's 28 days, the sun was blank. Hathaway expects this situation to continue for the rest of 2006:(
Have a nice weekend.

Per
11-03-2006, 12:26
Hi,

Well, I believe it's the propagation that is "playing". Or what caused the drops between 10:31-10:50. But what happend at 11:58?
Nice otherwise with the stereo signal. Listening time: 09:55 - 12:21 UTC. Result: 75.5% CDA

simone
11-03-2006, 14:15
Hi all,
pretty good results for an hour today
Simone

carknue
12-03-2006, 16:25
Quite weak this morning, but OK after 30 minutes.

Digger
14-03-2006, 14:25
Hi,

China Radio International came on just before 09 UTC, but its signal was not so strong (for a change :D ), but enough to interfere. Otherwise good reception all through.


Terje

FritzWue
16-03-2006, 19:30
Driving from 48147 Muenster to 49661 Cloppenburg.
Good signal! :D

df8uo
18-03-2006, 20:40
Hi alll,
almost 2h perfect. Light interference, which could not really harm the reception.
73, Daniel

carknue
19-03-2006, 11:58
Weak and instable this morning.

Sixten
19-03-2006, 12:11
Hi all.

Log over 70min to day.

simone
19-03-2006, 18:05
Hi all,
no DRM signal before 0930 (schedule change?) btw nop signal on17700 kHz either, bad conditions again this morning
Simone

FritzWue
21-03-2006, 15:54
Driving from Muenster to Osnabrueck:

FritzWue
22-03-2006, 16:43
Driving in Muenster, NRW:

carknue
24-03-2006, 19:26
Strong and stable all the time.

carknue
25-03-2006, 18:06
Perfect, but signal strength drop in the last 30 minutes:confused:

Mitsuru Ito
27-03-2006, 14:11
hi all,

The signal of DW 15440KHZ was docorded good in Japan.
I received DW at 12HRS first time.

dk8cb
01-04-2006, 16:11
Strong signal, good reception, much better reception than on 15265 kHz which suffered heavily from a strong on-channel carrier when I checked at 13:30 UTC.

Roland

Digger
03-04-2006, 16:03
Hi,

Strong and stable signal here. Perfect, I would say.
Higher SNR on all DRM stations after some more work on my FRG 7700.


Terje

Mitsuru Ito
04-04-2006, 13:12
hi all,
The signal was good decord today.
I guess after 1hr it will be better than this.
Thanks 73s
DE JA2QDX M.Ito

Digger
04-04-2006, 13:29
Hi,

The conditions were good today too. The improved SNR is credited to running the FRG 7700 on an external DC Supply instead from its built-in 230 VAC transformer and rectifier. Up to 5 dB better SNR than previous logs.

Terje

Digger
06-04-2006, 13:11
Hi,

A bit jumpy today, but on average very good. CDA was almost perfect, Fading probably was the cause of the variation in SNR.


Terje

Digger
07-04-2006, 11:18
Hi,

Very interesting! A very weak signal, just after 09 UT the S-meter went down to S0 - S1. S1 is approx. +6 dBµV into the antenna terminal. The Channel Impulse Response remained very distinct, and there was decoded audio even with periods of S0. I believe the reason for the weak signals was the C9.7 solar flare at 08 UT :confused:

An hour long log with some comments is enclosed.


Terje

Mitsuru Ito
08-04-2006, 10:23
hi all,
DW was dcorded few mins .
The signal was not so strong.

Digger
08-04-2006, 14:00
Hi,

PERFECT! :)


Terje

carknue
08-04-2006, 17:47
perfect too.

Digger
09-04-2006, 11:33
Hi,

Again perfect, but slightly lower SNR than yesterday.


Terje