BBC & DW on 3995 kHz from Sines and Skelton

[CT4RK]

Hi all
This frequency have no changes in the schedule. Only the program change. Sines will be on air from 22:00 to 23:00 UTC, and from 5:00 to 5:59 UTC.

[simone]

Please use this thread for results from both sites, Sines and Skelton.
Daily schedule for this frequency:
0500- 0700
1600- 2300

Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A morning result from Skelton. Weak signal, most of the time below 30 dBuV, so some decoding problems.

[Digger]

I remembered this new service too late, so here is a short log only.

[pb1]

3995: Between 17-18GMT almost no reception possible on ordinary Morphy Richards 27024 in Amsterdam the Netherlands.

[simone]

A few dropouts this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

Perfect reception here from 1647 and 110 min on.

[simone]

A weak signal in the first half hour from Skelton, otherwise quite good results.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A result during a morning full of thunderstorms.

[FritzWue]

Remembering the problems with reception from Wertachtal on this band and the tests from Sines at my location this TX location is a real improvement.
Lower SNR here between 18:00 and 20:00 UTC.

[simone]

Good results this morning, apart from a few dropouts.
Simone

[drmdab]

Two TX crashes, so 70% CDA only :(

[simone]

As on 5875 kHz, no more problems in the last half hour.
Simone

[pb1]

Could not listen to Newshour yesterday via DRM in Amsterdam (switched to analogue). No reception possible on MR27024 after 22 CET. :mad:
Why is 1296kHz switched of so soon?

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Here's a 2 1/2 hours result.

[Digger]

The first log covers the same span as Mitajohn's. The dropouts are the same as here; I have one less.

My second log covers a bit into the SIN as well. Almost perfect reception.

Also perfect with the Morphy and its telescopic antenna (after Poland went QRT).

[simone]

Still a few interruptions, otherwise good results last night.
Simone

[simone]

A weaker signal in the first 15 minutes, but still good decoding.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A mostly unattended log for 250mins.

[Digger]

A short log between programs. Perfect decoding.

Added another short log from 2111 UTC. Almost perfect here too.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A 6 hour result tonight.

[FritzWue]

Good result on an unreliable frequency:

[simone]

Almost perfect results from both sites this morning, not so good last night.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Wow, I think I finally found my resync problem! :D

[Sixten]

Perfect signal from Skelton this evning. Short log 30min .

[Ant-SWL]

Hi all,

60Min. log with perfect start from Skelton into 2009 :) .

Happy new year to all !

[Sixten]

Log 100Min Fantastic stabile signal on this band today.

[Digger]

Compared to 5.790 MHz, this frequency is much more reliable. A perfect log for 74 minutes.

[FritzWue]

The old problem when you get into the dead zone:

[Pirx]

RX: Elta 3562N- bazar receiver.
Ant: two turns magnetic loop in room.
As a result !

[Ant-SWL]

Good and stable 107 Min. result !

[simone]

A few dropouts from Skelton this morning.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Very good signal!
Nottuln-B525-Gescher

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A nearly perfect result for 2 1/2 hours.

[Per]

Morning,

This is the log for the BBC/DW transmission when it changed between Sines and Skelton. Time: 05:24-06:14 UTC. CDA: 71 %.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

An almost perfect result from Sines in spite of the co-channel QRM.

[simone]

Some problems in the second hour yesterday, perfect again in the last hour.
Simone

[simone]

Similar results today.
Simone

[Digger]

A mostly unattended log. Good reception from Skelton in the evening. I don't know what the five breaks (or whatever) during the last hour (from Sines) were.

[Ant-SWL]

Short log with perfect result !

[simone]

A weak signal at the beginning from Skelton.
Simone

[Ant-SWL]

Hi all,

the log shows the jump from Skelton to Sines 2200 UTC today.
Result ?
Perfect from both sides here ! :)

[simone]

Better results this morning from in the first hour from Skelton.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Good result, strong signal, wide noise floor, higher end about 5 dB lower imd:

[Sixten]

Hi all.

Her is 21min log from Sines. Perfect propagtion. :)

[Ant-SWL]

No problems this evening! 100 % decoded audio in 2h28min. :)

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

An almost perfect result for 1H46mins.

[simone]

A weak signal in the first hour from Skelton, quite good for the rest of the time.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Berlin Steglitz - Berlin Moabit

[simone]

Quite good last night, problems in the second hour this morning.
Simone

[simone]

No problems in the second hour this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

The QRM from the next house could not kill this transmission. Perfect reception.

[simone]

Good results last night, a weak signal at the start of the transmission from Skelton this morning.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Oldenburg-A28-Filsum
17:05 -> parking

[simone]

Results from last night and this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A result for about 4 hours.

[FritzWue]

Glandorf-B475-A1-A43-B525-Gescher
Two stops with engine restart in Nottuln.
The Perseus is not yet directly connected to the car battery.

[simone]

Good results this morning, stronger signal at the start from Skelton than the past weeks.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Almost perfect results both sites.

[simone]

Only a few minutes with a weak signal from Skelton, otherwise quite good results.
Simone

[simone]

Good results from both sites this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

One hour result.

[simone]

Good results except the first minutes from Skelton.
Simone

[simone]

Results from last night and this morning (some MDI feed problems again)
Simone

[simone]

Some dropouts last night, better condtions this morning.
Simone

[Ant-SWL]

Good result, minor dropouts... 2h41min log.

[Digger]

Almost one hour log, perfect result.

[simone]

Good results apart from the datastream problems towards the end.
Simone

[Digger]

Good results apart from the datastream problems.

[simone]

Some problems in the first half hour.
Simone

[simone]

Good results this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Pretty good results today, no more problems :)
Simone

[simone]

Some problems again today (same breaks on MF).
Simone

[simone]

No such problems this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Pretty good results this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A result for more than 3 hours.

[FritzWue]

Good reception in the morning:

[simone]

Good results this morning.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Good reception:

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

That's the result for tonight.

[FritzWue]

Herford-A30-A31-Gescher
DRM works at high speed! :D

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A 150 mins result tonight, with some decoding problems around 19:50.

[simone]

Pretty good results this morning.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Good reception with terrible impulse response:

[drmdab]

Good reception today.

[simone]

Pretty good results this morning.
Simone

[f1tay]

God reception at Paris.

[simone]

Almost perfect results this morning.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Gescher-B525-A43-A1-Muenster North
The same good result on the road... :)

[simone]

Not so good for the last 15 minutes this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Some dropouts in the last half hour.
Simone

[simone]

Same dips as on MF.
Simone

[Roy Sandgren]

Hi DRM freaks,
do anyone got some reports from Denmark and Kalundborg 243 kHz???
How far away from TX is it receptions??

[drmdab]

Hi Roy, just head over to http://www.drmrx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1925 :)

[Roy Sandgren]

Thanks a lot "drmdab" it's not so far away from Malmö-Kiel. haven't been on this group since 2004, but it doesn't matter, only we got great supporters of DRM and the future is here.
Sweden will open the DAB+ next year and even new AM/FM/DRM licences.
Got the starwaves car box in my car and RTL is audible in south of Sweden.

[simone]

Same problems as on 1296 kHz.
Simone

[Roy Sandgren]

Simone;
almost when listning to mediumwave after sunset you get skywaves. makes the dropouts. Best receptions of DRM is the groundwave of medium/longwave. During dayligth hours.
On shortwave is the target area. Slow fading.

[simone]

Simone;
almost when listning to mediumwave after sunset you get skywaves. makes the dropouts. Best receptions of DRM is the groundwave of medium/longwave. During dayligth hours.
On shortwave is the target area. Slow fading. Hi Roy,
thanks for your comment, but in this case the problem is not propagation, but short breaks in the MDI feed, which hopefully can be solved soon. Actually on 1296 kHz skywave works great for me and is a lot more reliable than shortwave.

Again problems this morning (also on MF).
Simone

[Roy Sandgren]

Most DRM stations on long and mediumwave after sunset got slower or hardly no fading at all. 1296 in my car was audible downtown Malmö. Slow fading, few dropouts. Great.

[simone]

Good conditions, still problems.
Simone

[simone]

Great results this morning, no more problems :)
Simone

[simone]

Good results last night using the Perseus, also no problems this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Good results again this morning.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Borken-A31-A2-A3-Cologne

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Too late for my area. A 20 mins log and then signal almost lost.

[Digger]

A bit of a mixed result from last night (8th)

[simone]

Perfect results this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Great results again this morning.
Simone

[simone]

... and again this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Perfect results again today.
Simone

[simone]

Good results again this morning.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Perfect reception:

[simone]

Good results as usual.
Simone

[Digger]

Not very impressive here. Perhaps my 9 meter wire is too short...

[simone]

Pretty good results again this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Good results again this morning.
Simone

[simone]

A deep dip at 06:20, otherwise pretty good.
Simone

[FritzWue]

~Dorsten-A31-A2-A45-A5-Friedberg(Taunus)

[simone]

Looks like some MDI feed problems again this morning.
@ Fritz: Friedberg is of course in the Wetterau not Taunus!
Simone

[simone]

Lots of interruptions today.
Simone

[simone]

Again some short breaks today.
Simone

[simone]

Good results apart from the interruptions in the first hour.
Simone

[simone]

A few minor dropouts in the last hour.
Simone

[simone]

Quite good with a few dropouts in the last hour.
Simone

[simone]

Good results this morning.
Simone

[simone]

A few minor dropouts towards the end.
Simone

[simone]

Good results this morning.
Simone

[simone]

A few dropouts in the last half hour this morning.
Simone

[simone]

A few dropouts again this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Good results this morning.
Simone

[simone]

A few dropouts towards the end.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Bad IR, the signal was stable and higher than 60 dBuV, but the result has its problems.

[simone]

Quite good with some minor dropouts this morning.
Simone

[simone]

A few dropouts towards the end, not sure if they were Tx related.
Simone

[simone]

Some dropouts in the last minutes.
Simone

[Digger]

Skelton seems better than Sines here at this time of the night.

[simone]

Good results this morning from both sites.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A result for this night with a lot af decoding problems around the change over time.

[simone]

Pretty good results from both sites this morning.
Simone

[Radio Felix]

Hello, please forgive a non-technical person like me intruding on your Forum but I produce the Proms for BBC WS and would like to know what the sound quality is like at the receiving end please. I'm told that the Proms are being broadcast on DRM every Saturday at 21.06UTC (I don't have a DRM receiver so can't check:-). Thank you very much. Radek Boschetty

[simone]

Pretty good results from both sites this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Almost perfect results both sites, but higher SNR from Sines.

[simone]

Some dropouts towards the end.
Simone

[simone]

Quite good apart from a problem at 05:55.
Simone

[simone]

Good results this morning.
Simone

[simone]

A few minor dropouts this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

An almost perfect result for 60 mins tonight.

[simone]

Pretty good results this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

Good reception from Skelton last night (13th). The small dips in the logs are all MSC related.

[FritzWue]

Good reception:

[simone]

A few dropouts in the last hour this morning.
Simone

[Ant-SWL]

Short log with 36 Min. runtime.
Good result! Strong signal with fast fading. SNR peak at 35.59 dB :)!

[simone]

Perfect results this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A two hour log.

[Digger]

An 81 minutes long log including a shaky switchover from SKN to SIN.

[simone]

Almost perfect results this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Perfect results this morning.
Simone

[Ant-SWL]

Good and stable 45 Minutes !

[simone]

Almost prefect results from both sites this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Pretty good results again today.
Simone

[Digger]

Perfect results from both locations. I forgot to switch the AGC to SLOW on the SKN log.
Btw, the log was taken with Dream, not SoDiRa!

[simone]

Perfect from both sites again this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

Perfect reception in the evening.

[simone]

Great results again this morning.
Simone

[CT4RK]

Hi all
In the new schedule 3995 KHz are from Sines in the 19:00/23:00 hole, and again 5:00/6:00...UTC of course.

73 CT4RK

[simone]

Hi Carlos,
thanks for the reminder, excellent results from Sines, a bit instable from Skelton but almost perfect decoding from both sites this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

Better reception here up north from Sines than from Skelton. I need to get my antenna up a bit more over the terrain.

[Digger]

Very good reception here (but the programme is slowly getting on my nerves... same thing over and over again :rolleyes: )

[FritzWue]

First Skelton, then Sines:

[simone]

Pretty good results from both sites.
Simone

[Digger]

Perfect here from Sines for 2 h 22 min.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for 2H30.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for about 30 mins.

[Digger]

Very good reception here too during the hour I listened last night.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for 98 mins.

[FritzWue]

Switching from Skelton to Sines gives weaker signal and lower snr but seems wise as it happens when Skelton is getting weak here.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result again but not as the yesterday's one. Lower SNR.

[simone]

A weak start from Skelton, quite good for the rest of the time.
Simone

[FritzWue]

Good reception:

[Digger]

Very good reception on my too short antenna.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

One major problem in this 3H29 log.

[Digger]

The decoding suffered from a very broad Channel Impulse Response in this early morning log.

[simone]

Pretty good results this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

Better this evening from both Skelton and Sines.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Severe decoding problems at the log's start up but suddenly at 17:09 things changed for good. I have no clue what happened.
Similar results from both sites, only the SNR was turning better to-wards time.

[Digger]

Best results from 2030 and on.

[Digger]

About one hour's perfect reception using my active antenna placed on the balcony.

[simone]

Perfect results last night, problems at the start from Skelton this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

Perfect reception from Sines.

[Digger]

Perfect reception. The dropouts were probably local PC problems.

[Digger]

There were some problems in the beginning of the log and at the end of the transmission. The IR was very wide and messy.

[Digger]

Perfect in the beginning from Sines, then a bit more unstable from Skelton.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result tonight for 82 mins.

[simone]

Good results last night and this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

Better decoding than this is not possible. :)

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A 4H30 log tonight. Low SNR from Skelton but at ~18:11 it jumped about 5 dBs until ~18:47 when some decoding problems occurred from unknown reason. After the switch to Sines the SNR got much higher and sometime reached 36 dB.

[Digger]

The reception of Sines is much more stable here than the transmission from Skelton.

[simone]

Hi John,
nothing unusual from Skelton noticed here yesterday.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Here's a partially unattended 200 mins log. Towards the end of log the IR turned chaotic.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

At 20:15, although the signal was about 65 dBuV, take a look at the IR, terrible...

[Digger]

I believe that the strong Aurora this evening ruined the reception up here this evening. :confused:

[Digger]

It was definitely the Aurora last night that interfered with the reception. Tonight: Perfect! :)

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A much better IR tonight and a result for 255 mins.

[simone]

Good results last night, a weak signal at the start from Skelton.
Simone

[Digger]

Good reception here this evening for 172 minutes.

[Sixten]

Hi all.

Very poor propagtion on all band now . MUF this time is 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 !!!!!

Signal stringth on this freq .is only S8/9 from my LW on 50m. ...

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A much better result from Sines tonight.

[Digger]

The same segment in Switzerland looks different from the one in Greece. The second log is the 245 minutes log from 18:14 UTC.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A result for 3H30 tonight.

[Digger]

The last hour with 100 % CDA.

[simone]

Good results this morning apart from two dropouts.
Simone

[Mitsuru Ito]

hi all
I got ffew audios in Japan.
DE JA2QDX M/Ito

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Well, 30 minutes this morning and thats it.

[Sixten]

Hi all.

Short log 30min . start from LW50m and over to active antenna 2108 ,
Same signal stringth but better SNR from active antenna in this propagation.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

An unattended log for 3H and 24 mins.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A result for 130 mins.

[simone]

Perfect results this morning and this evening.
Simone

[Mitsuru Ito]

hi all
signal was strong today.
but I got few audio(about 1min)
DE JA2QDX M.Ito

[simone]

Problems (no signal?) from Sines this morning, good results from Skelton also this afternoon.
Simone

[simone]

No signal from Skelton this morning :( , good results last night.
Simone

[KD7YUF]

Good reception from an unmodded PCR-1000 over an internet stream!

[simone]

Good results last night from Skelton but a very weak signal in the first hour from Skelton this morning.
Simone

[simone]

Quite good results this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

Some decoding problems around 20:48, then almost perfect.

[simone]

Pretty good results from both sites this morning.
Simone

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for 96 mins.

[Per]

Hi,

Good result here as well. Particularly the reception from Sines was perfect. The change of Tx site is clearly visible @ 06:00 UTC.
Txt msg:
Details of our programmes are at bbcworldservice.com and dw-world.de

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for 90 mins.

[Digger]

Good, near to perfect reception. I don't know what happened just after 17 UTC.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for 109 mins. High noise floor tonight.

[f1tay]

Reception at Paris with a PA0RDT Mini Whip antenna.

[simone]

A weak signal for about half an hour from Skelton.
Simone

[FritzWue]

When I think back how bad the reception was on 75m 5 years ago this is a real good result: :)

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for 103 mins.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result for 3 hours.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

A perfect result again for 3H46.

[Digger]

Good reception with SoDiRa for this log in this band. Above 11 MHz there was virtually nothing to hear at all.

[Digger]

A 286 minutes long log from both sites with > 99 % CDA.

[FritzWue]

Glandorf-B475-A1-A43-B525-Gescher
The last 30 minutes were recorded in the parking car with engine off.
No big difference. :)

[FritzWue]

Perfect reception:

[Digger]

I'd rate 99.9% CDA perfect especially as the break between Skelton and Sines is in there. :)

[Digger]

Only Sines tonight, but perfect reception.

[FritzWue]

Muenster North-a1-A43-B525-Gescher
Excellent reception from Skelton! :)

[Digger]

3 h 40 min ocf almost perfect reception from Sines.

[simone]

Perfect results from Skelton this morning.
Simone

[Digger]

A Dream Log from both sites with very good results. Sines works even better than Skelton.

[Digger]

For some reason or another SoDiRa did not cope with the changeover from Skelton to Sines at 19 UTC. :confused:

[Digger]

Today the switchover between Skelton and Sines went without flaws. Enclosed is a 320 min. long SoDiRa log.

[mitajohn]

Hi all,

1H log of perfect results.

[Digger]

The CIR deteriorated around 1830 UT and the decoding became problematic. The signal was very strong, but still...