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carknue
25-03-2007, 16:28
No DRM from the BBC anymore? This new summer 07 schedule is a joke. A bad joke.

DRM-OM
29-03-2007, 17:07
I wonder if there is a connection to the switchover of DW from Wertachtal/Nauen to Merlin ...

Anyway this sends out a clear message to the public - intended or not - since the BBC is one of the founding members of DRM :(

DBourne
29-03-2007, 19:39
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/internet/800/radio_frequencies_western_europe.shtml
The BBC WS DRM times for Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and adjacent parts of France and Germany (where Morphy Richards DRM sets are ofically on sale) are:
0500-0900 1296
0700-1000 9470,
1500-1900 7465.
1700-2100 1296
Looks like they have given up on 1296 daytime ground wave and using the 1296 directional single hop skywave

There will also be a BBC MW domestic ground wave DRM test in Plymouth Devon, but the Morphy Richards DRM sets are not offically on sale in UK yet!

DRM-OM
29-03-2007, 20:05
They gave up daytime 10:00 - 15:00 altogether and gave up the second frequency used all day before (was nice for testing diversity).
That means a reduction of 70% in Shortwave for Europe coverage.

simone
29-03-2007, 21:30
Hi DBourne,
not quite, I guess the correct BBC WS DRM schedule is (times UTC):

0600-0900 9470 kHz
1600-1800 7465 kHz
1800-2000 7420 kHz

0400-0800 1296 kHz
1600-2200 1296 kHz

Besides the reduction of hours of DRM transmissions, BBC WS are still the only station doing regular dataservices like EPG, AFS on all transmissions and also BWS on HF!

Simone

DRM-OM
30-03-2007, 08:43
Interestingly the BBC Website DBourne mentioned doesn't give any detail about DRM transmissions at all.

What I would like to know is if the cuts are a result of transmitter shortage at Merlin because of the DW switchover - I would call that "technical reasons" - or if there is some other decision behind that - I would call "political reasons".

It's very important to point the reasons out, if the latter is the case that sends out a signal as a result of which you can forget DRM SW in the car for years ... (the automotive industry is - above all - cost orientated).

DBourne
30-03-2007, 09:38
Simone thanks for the correction of the broadcast details.

Mike Br posted on Digitalspy this info below which he found in the WRTV handbook which explains things a bit more.
Nigel Chapman, Director of BBC WS was interviewed in this years World Radio TV Handbook in an article Future of Radio, some quotes:

"I'm not very optimistic about the future of DRM to be honest"

"We should keep a toe in the water but I wouldn't want to invest more in DRM at this stage. I'm not getting a measurable audience for one thing. So although I want to keep a relationship with it I don't want to invest much."

International broadcasters generally are switching out of radio and serving Europe, a lot of BBC WS resources are now being switched to television and local FM relays, a new Arabic TV service is taking resources away from radio services to Europe.

Brendan1
30-03-2007, 13:47
Sadly, Europe is now being subjected to the closure of BBC broadcasts that we went through a number of years ago. In those days, I was able to listen to the BBC nearly 24 hours a day with even a modest antenna and a good receiver. It is virtually impossible for me to hear any BBC broadcast now, in any language.

FM relays? Very uncommon and usually after midnight local time: precisely when everyone is asleep. BBC TV? If you want to watch it, you have to pay for it, IF your local cable company even carries it. The Internet? Fine, if you have access, but of course, that isn't free either.

Since their "retreat" from HF, the BBC has greatly diminished their standing as a leading news source in my opinion. I think that Lord Reith, who established the BBC in the '30s is probably spinning in his grave.

pb1
20-10-2007, 08:12
Does anyone have the B-07 schedule for BBC WS on DRM?
I nhave asked the BBC via their website, but still did not receive an answer.
There are transmissions in the week from 22-26 october on other times, is this for a special meeting, or is this something to do with the B-07 schedule?

Regards,
Piet

simone
20-10-2007, 13:02
There are transmissions in the week from 22-26 october on other times, is this for a special meeting, or is this something to do with the B-07 schedule?
These are just special transmissions to Geneva for the next two weeks, not changes due to the coming winter schedule.
Simone

pb1
22-10-2007, 14:27
I have read this on MySnip:
Thank you for your email.

The BBC's DRM transmission times will start at 1700 GMT from the end of this week - an extra two hours per day of BBC programming.

With regard to the programme schedule for the period 28 October 2007 to 29 March 2008, this will be available later this week.

Regards
Audience Relations
BBC World Service

And Simone, I had forgotten that the ITU World Radiocommunication Conference 2007 was in Geneva.

Edit: On the BBC World Service website, the schedules are now available for the next 4 weeks.

FritzWue
22-10-2007, 18:00
I wish they would transmit longer in the morning on 1296 kHz.
When I start my day in the car they switch off now.