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mitajohn
16-02-2007, 10:21
Hi all,
A weak signal until it almost disappeared gave this result.
FritzWue
27-02-2007, 22:33
Coesfeld-B525-A43-A1-Muenster Nord
Hi all.
Very good signal her today.
Just perfect. The log is not very long, but - perfect.
Carbon paper: Perfect again!
Except for a few minutes long break around 09 UTC the reception was very good. The best part was before 09 UTC. After the break the signal seemed to be weaker :confused:
Anyway, I increased my personal SNR record by 0.11 dB to 39.21 dB around 0806 UTC.
The receiver was the Yaesu FRG7700 with its own PLL circuit, a 10 m long wire antenna, and an external 17 Volt DC Power Supply.
Hi Terje
Congratulation for your SNR record.
Our receiver reference to the output of transmitter, are 38 db!
To 9:00 antenna moved of 30 for 20º north. Here it is the reason for decreased of the signal in your location.
Esteves
Hi Esteves and all,
A few observations from this morning: I fumbled with the antenna cable around 1035 UTC, which caused a dip, then at approx. 1037 UTC I changed the power supply to the receiver, just to experience a TX break just after. I believe the S-Meter fell a unit or two, but after the 2nd, a bit longer TX break, the signal got stronger again. From 11 UTC the log was unattended.
The conditions were playing havoc at the beginning of the log when the S-Meter swung from S9 +20 dB down to S5 and stayed low for a while. Then suddenly at 20 minutes into the log, the conditions picked up to almost normal.
After the break at 09 UTC the SNR rose and became much more stable.
Perfect for more than two hours this morning.
Hi all.
Good signal today on this band.
Almost two hours until the end of the transmission. 100% perfect.
FritzWue
19-03-2007, 23:19
Gescher-A31-Kirchhellen-Gelsenkirchen Scholven
Max SNR 39.3 dB in the car with 1.4m whip! :)
Hi all.
Her super log 193min , only short brake from DW in DRM stream.
:)
A similar super log here, 137 minutes long. During the break around 09 UTC I noticed some splatter which came from a signal 10 kHz down, an AM TX with terrible modulation plus some kind of 100 Hz hum. After 09 UTC the bitrate changed to 20 kbps. There was another break in the audio around 0947 UTC, but I believe the DRM signal was present. The configuration was the same as before the interruption.
75 perfect minutes from just after 10 UTC.
A straight line. Perfect.
Hi all.
Very strong and stabile signal from this antenna system. I can only repeat ,A straight line. Perfect.
SNR in my log is 10db below Terje's, it come from AGC system in my reciver.
FritzWue
22-03-2007, 14:13
Ahaus-A31-Lingen-Wietmarschen
Perfect reception despite that I had to use an emergency antenna solution. Heavy snow destroyed my regular antenna :(
Still no regular antenna. The SNR varied a lot, perhaps the conditions. Nothing wrong with the SNR though.
Perfect as usual for a Sines frequency.
Very good and stable again today. No, I did not use a ruler to draw the two lines myself... :)
FritzWue
27-03-2007, 22:29
Nottuln-A43-Muenster-A1-Ahlen-Beckum-A2-Bielefeld
142 perfect minutes. Pretty straight SNR, but not as straight as it was yesterday. But, perfect is perfect.
Except for some happenings around 10 UTC the rest was perfect.
Almost two hours of perfect reception.
258 perfect minutes. 100% CDA. :)
Hi,
130 minutes perfect, then lower SNR.
Seppo
A perfect hour from this morning.
Perfect as usual from Sines.
Again a perfect one and a half hours up until 1130 UTC.
Terrible conditions today. A very weak signal around 08 UTC, then it picked up. The rise in SNR was due to me switching the Slow AGC to "ON".
Hi all.
Log 95min. very good signal. on this freq. today also. But very bad conditions on all band .
mitajohn
04-04-2007, 13:12
Hi all,
The log started with a signal up to 45 dBuV then slowly dropped down (as well as the SNR) a bit over 20 dBuV and I stopped the log and tuned the RX to 15725 kHz.
Hi all.
Short log today 60min. Signal not so strong bad propagation.
Hi all,
Two logs today. Just testing two radios with the same antenna. Small gaps were caused by me, as I switced the antenna input.
FritzWue
04-04-2007, 16:26
Muenster North-A1-A43-B525-Nottuln
SNR Maximum [dB]: 38.7
Hi,
What to say? I guess this is one of the worst results that I've got from DW at Sines :confused:
Time. 08:02 - 08:33 UTC. Result: Just 49 % CDA....
A perfect log over 122 minutes from 0822 UT. :)
petecchiaro
07-04-2007, 14:48
Good reception using a Sangean ATS 909 modified for DRM. The reception has been obtained with the receiver's stilo antenna inside building far from windows.
Perfect today again. Two straight lines. For 90 minutes. :cool:
The SNR fluctuations in the beginning were caused by me changing between 10 dB RF ATT and 0 dB, which upset the SNR. Otherwise very good. Typical of Sines :)
More than 120 minutes of perfect reception.
FritzWue
11-04-2007, 19:05
Gescher-A31-A2-A43-A1-Remscheid
More than 100 minutes of perfect reception.
I don't know what happened at 0835 and 0840, otherwise it was perfect.
This is a transmission of DW on 13820kHz.Strong signal, albeit with more severe Doppler effect.
Perfect (but unattended) log.
An unattended 3 hours long log. What happened around 1110 UT? Transmitter problems or QRM?
Except for the TX break the reception would have been perfect.
Very bad propagation this morning. All bands seem weak.
FritzWue
19-04-2007, 08:37
Werne-A1-A44-A445/46-Arnsberg
Bad condx, problems when driving in Arnsberg:
Hi friends
Thanks for yours reports. The transmission on 13,810 Mhz in 17/4 and 18/4 was made with another antenna. Due the maintenance of our rotatable courtain antennas, (Sines is just closed with Atlantic Ocean and we have frequent maintenance of the antennas), we used a low gain, vertical polarized log periodic antenna. Today We returne to courtain antenna on this QRG, but we will use the LP antenna on 15MHz band.
Here is 90 minutes from this morning. The signal was noticeably stronger again.
Almost two hours from start. Noticed a TX break (carrier wave disappeared) at 0802 UTC and a break in the sound about 0853 UTC, otherwise strong signal, high SNR and perfect reception.
Hi,
Perfect reception this morning of DW. 130 minutes and 100 % CDA.
Time: 08:29 - 10:39 UTC.
BTW, I noticed that I could switch to 15715 kHz without loosing sync and audio.
Except for the TX break around 0919 UTC the reception was perfect.
Except for the TX breaks around 0936 and 0938 UTC these two hours log was perfect.
A longer log, almost perfect. Noticed some breaks at 0906 UTC when the SNR went dow, another break at 0913, then again at 0923. After that break the SNR rose again. There was a 4th break just after 11 UT but after that the radio was unattended.
A mostly unattended 4.8 hours long log. 100 % CDA :) . Perfect!
Only a 40 minutes long log today, but perfect.
Perfect over a period of 2 h 40 min. A mostly unattended log. No idea why the SNR was bumpy.
A mostly unattended 1 hour long log. 100 % CDA . Perfect!
FritzWue
03-05-2007, 20:58
Duisburg Duissern (south) to Duisburg Marxloh (north) via the A59,
parking for the last 30 minutes.
Higher frequencies are excellent for reception in town!
A three hours, mostly unattended, almost perfect log.
FritzWue
04-05-2007, 15:47
Osnabruck center-A30-A31-Gescher
high speed
Hi,
Well, as usuall, perfect result from Sines. :)
Time: 09:26 - 10:31 UTC resulted in 100 % CDA.
Received txt msg:
Lob für Tarifeinigung in der Metallindustrie
More than five perfect hours from today until the end at 14 UTC. The log was mostly unattended.
Perfect exceptthwo drops at the beginning.
This is one of the best DRM frequencies in the UK at the moment:) , almost always a strong signal and high SNR. I have been listening to it quite a lot over the last 2 weeks.
Almost three perfect hours today.
Almost two hours today, perfect results. Needless to say more...
FritzWue
08-05-2007, 19:53
Gescher-A31-A2-Luenen
Perfect. I had only time to log 50 minutes.
A very short log after having re-aligned the receiver.
Hi,
Almost perfect, 98.6 % CDA, after 183 minutes of listening.
Almost two and a half hours. Just perfect.
Hi,
five hours of DW Sines, almost perfect as usual.
Seppo
Hi,
305 minutes 99,9 % CDA. Two radios connected to the same antenna.
Seppo
FritzWue
24-05-2007, 18:31
Remscheid-A1-A43-A40-Essen
230 minutes, 100% CDA. Perfect.
FritzWue
01-06-2007, 14:43
Gelsenkirchen Schalke-A42-A43-A1-Remscheid
130 minutes of perfect reception.
Hi,
93 minutes of perfect reception. Sines is never a disappointing DRM site.
Time: 08:07 - 09:40. Result: 99.1 % CDA.
More than 150 minutes of perfect decoding.
Total kolaps of DRM today. Signal stringth S9+10db .SNR only 14db so log stop after 15min.
:confused:
FritzWue
11-06-2007, 14:14
Glandorf-B475-A1-A43-B525-Coesfeld
FritzWue
14-06-2007, 18:01
Coesfeld-B525-A43-A1-Muenster Nord
Hi,
It's still some strange conds, even Sines is suffering: 90 % CDA on DW.
Time: 11:45 - 13:04 UTC.
Looking at the Ionograms from Germany, Belgium, Praha, Spain and even USA indicated extremely intensive Sporadic E this morning again. I logged DW when we were out shopping - 100% and high SNR.
Hi all.
Her log for 60min. today .
If you live in Switzerland, want 100% uninterrupted DRM shortwave reception for at more 3 hours in a row, then this is the right choice: DW from Sines on 13810 kHz. :cool:
Hi Digger,
same here in Germany :)
Simone
108 minutes, but not the usual perfect today.... Very good anyway.
FritzWue
06-07-2007, 11:52
After some configuration changes the SDR-1000 setup seems to work now. :cool:
FritzWue
07-07-2007, 12:57
Very good here too.
Very good here too. Log today 119min.
FritzWue
09-07-2007, 21:12
Beckum-A2-B66-Detmold
FritzWue
10-07-2007, 16:21
Muenster-A1-A44-Werl
FritzWue
14-07-2007, 14:32
good as always
Perfect her in Sweden also.
FritzWue
18-07-2007, 18:56
Nottuln-A43-A1-B58-A2-A33-Paderborn
FritzWue
19-07-2007, 19:31
Ahaus-A31-A30-B61-Minden
The noise in Bad Oeynhausen usually makes mediumwave drm impossible but cannot harm strong shortwave reception. Only the 1.7km Weserauen tunnel blocks everything.
Hi,
Well, it can't get any 'better' than this. CDA 100 %.
Time: 09:18 - 09:50 UTC.
Hi,
just tested how Sines is working today. Almost 100% 229 minutes. Strong as usual.
Seppo
FritzWue
27-07-2007, 10:32
Not bad, had some local em noise from a washing machine. :rolleyes:
Nice reception - no more comment, just nice !!
Michel
33200
FritzWue
28-07-2007, 11:38
Strong signal, but the DW AM carrier on 13790 kHz is much stronger!
FritzWue
04-08-2007, 15:06
The result reflects my always late adjustment of the rx amplification with switched off agc as the signal was constantly decreasing over the day. The true achievable average snr was higher.
Wow! Kchibo + Garden + Batteries = SOUND !! :D
Temp. QTH: Stockholm, N59° 24.5' / E18° 00.8'
Kchibo KK-DRM01, Telescopic antenna
ACER Travel Mate 2480, battery operated
FritzWue
20-08-2007, 15:09
Solid signal, good results.
Perfect result today. I wonder why the DreamLog text file shows values > 1500 frames sometimes? :confused:
mitajohn
25-08-2007, 16:36
I wonder why the DreamLog text file shows values > 1500 frames sometimes?
Take a look at this old thread: http://www.drmrx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=748&page=3
posts #171 ....174
Hi John,
Hmm, I think you mentioned that before, when I think back. But I was'nt even there at the time - the log was unattended. Ihave no cats, dogs or parrots at home. If you have a peek into the cvs log, these anomalies do not show up there. Otherwise I would get the same bumps in my DRM-Log Plotter.
mitajohn
25-08-2007, 19:58
......the log was unattended
Well, that's something else (magic ?), must be reported to the Dream forum.
BTW, I have lately noticed a lot of discrepancies in the Dream's log file....
The magic is still there.
But the result was very good anyway.
A short, but very stable log.
Just a short log. Perfect results, 100%.
Hi all,
Good until 12.30
Jos.
FritzWue
14-09-2007, 16:05
Gescher-A31-A30-Ibbenbueren
100 % CDA!
Perfect reception
230 minutes of almost perfect reception. Perhaps the drop-out around 12 UTC was caused in my PC. In that case it was 230 minutes of perfect reception. :rolleyes:
Perfect ! Not a single drop-out between 1125 - 1340 UTC. :)
FritzWue
20-09-2007, 20:30
Rheine-A30-A2-Hannover-A7-Sarstedt
Propagation very stabile today. Log 30min.
200 minutes of solid block 100% reception. :cool:
Propagation very stabile today. Log 78min.
60min log from today. only 2 line !!!!
FritzWue
26-09-2007, 15:53
Just a few minutes on the A30 near Rheine:
An unattended log while I was out.
Hi,
Three solid hours of both good music and good reception!
Time: 08:52 - 11:52 UTC. Result: 99.8 % CDA.
:)
Received txt msg:
Frequenztabellen und Programmuebersichten: www.dw-world.de/drmschedules
Very stable except for one break around 09:30 UTC which I am not sure if it was my PC or if it was TX related.
Hi all.
63min. log like ""FM "" radio.
Hi all.
Her log.70min from Roadstar TRA-2350p direct to Mixer SA612AN and Telescopic antenna . But 13810 is very strong and clear freq.
Signal stringth her is S9+20-40db from dipole antenna.
FritzWue
11-10-2007, 16:53
Werne-A1-A43-B525-Gescher
SNR depending on speed
Hi all.
So come her 61min log from this Tx . perfect for portable reciver.
:)
mitajohn
14-10-2007, 14:59
Hi all,
The results with SQ: 99.90%.
mitajohn
15-10-2007, 17:28
Hi all,
A 30 mins period with severe decoding problems.
FritzWue
15-10-2007, 19:28
Billerbeck-Altenberge
If it had not been for the TX failure (no carrier at all for a while) around 0843 UTC, the 1 1/2 hour long log would have been perfect.
Very good here. SNR peak 38 db!
Some dips in SNR after 1230 UTC, but no problem.
FritzWue
02-11-2007, 08:23
SDC CRC indicator is flashing yellow/green all the time.
(DREAM 1.6.1)
SDC CRC indicator is flashing yellow/green all the time here too in 1.6.1cvs, but only on DW transmissions. Checked with a version 1.7.9, which does not flicker :confused:
Hi,
good as usual in Helsinki. 33dB SNR, 99.9 % CDA
One hour log and perfect result!
Hi,
Besides the dip at 10:06 UTC there was perfect reception of DW in stereo.
Time: 09:55-10:47 UTC. Result: 98.9 % CDA.
Very good results.
Regards
Michel
FritzWue
26-11-2007, 19:05
Muenster-A1-A30-Bad Oeynhausen
FritzWue
03-12-2007, 12:21
Signal with a lot of fast fading.
Perfect propagation today.
Perfect reception here; the only break was the mode change.
An unattended log. Perfect here today too.
Good results here too.
Simone
Hi,
strong signal in Helsinki. Max SNR 32dB. Looks like this 32-33 dB is the maximum SNR of the TX as I measured sometimes over 40dB SNR from the data spectrum.
Seppo
A surprisingly weak signal at the very beginning, then things got back to "normal" (very strong).
Hi,
Strong signal again today, max SNR 37 dB
An unattended log from around midday today. Perfect!
Bad results with a weak signal today.
Simone
An short, unattended log from around midday today. Perfect!
FritzWue
31-01-2008, 11:17
SNR Maximum [dB]: 39.1
Hi,
SNR max 26 dB but the reception just perfect 100%!
Perfect here too. Only the mode change caused CDA to be <100%.
Max. SNR: 37.4 dB.
Hi,
this is how DRM should work. Decoded audio 100% and the audio quality perfect. The dynamic range of audio is almost 100dB up to 4kHz and 4-11 kHz the dynamic range is 90 dB. Also stereo effect is working beautifully, and this is transmitted MSC = 16 QAM. :) :)
...Seppo
A short, but perfect log.
Perfect except for one TX break during the mode change and one local PC blurp.
Stable conditions and perfect reception.
Perfect and stable as usual. Max SNR 37dB.
Same here: Stable, perfect. The only break was the mode change.
Great signal as usual and perfect decoding (except mode change-related dip at about 0858).
100 % decoding if you don't take into account the mode change at 09:00.
Hi,
Two big drops, one at 10:00 and the second at 10:30 UTC, but an overall CDA of 94.4 % for 1½ hours is not bad.
Time: 09:24-10:57 UTC. Received txt msg:
US favours fresh sanctions against Tehran
Perfect, 100% CDA if you don't consider the Mode change at 09:00 UTC.
FritzWue
26-02-2008, 10:00
High SNR but a lot of fading.
Weak signal in the beginning, but after a while it returned to about normal.
Hi all.
After total black out so is propagation on 13Mhz better today.
Test log her on 87min.
This band is very up and down from Sines today. .
Something played a trick on me today. The signal just faded out slowly. :confused: Unfortunately I was out when it happened.
Only a 47 minutes long log, but perfect. :)
An interesting log under messy ionospheric conditions. There was heavy Fading between no signal and S6 in the beginning, then gradually getting better. It is interesting to observe the difference between Mode B and Mode A in the log. It is a pity that the mode change couldn't had taken place a little earlier!
Good signal on this band today but low signal stringth. Log 45min. for propagation test.
Good results, the dip at 0859 was TX related (mode change). 99.6 % in this 155-minutes-log.
Very stable and perfect reception.
An unattended log of 80 perfect minutes.
Hello,
After a few years brake of DRM reception, my station here southern Finland is up again. I have plans to run it 24/7 from now.
Here are yesterday 17.03.2008 13810 KHz results from Sines. Littlebit bumpy start, but today's reception which is just underway looks much better.
Equipment: FRG-100 with Schneider mixer / GPM-1500 antenna
EDIT: 18.03.2008 results added.
EDIT: 24.03.2008 Historic logs, real-time during rx/logging http://oh2gax.dyndns.org/~ode/drmlog/
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Otso / OH2GAX
Hi all.
30min. test on this freq. My S-meter peak S9+50db .
Just a short log showing the switch between modes.
Three hours and 21 minutes log. Perfect.
Perfect today too. The log is almost two hours long.
Two hours and 40 minutes of perfect decoding. :)
Hi all,
Good results today.
Jos.
Perfect as usual here from Sines on 13 MHz.
Perfect during 4 hours and 22 minutes. The log was mostly unattended. 100% CDA
60min . 2 line !!! very stabile.
Sines in the 13 MHz band is perfect here. The log is one hour long. The break in the beginning is the mode change.
Mitsuru Ito
11-04-2008, 13:30
Hi all
I was able to get audio in Japan.
But short time.
DE JA2QDX M.Ito
At the beginning the reception was weak and unstable, probably due to the low MUF this morning. Or maybe I should have said "today" instead. Therefore, the CDA ended at 95%.
Hi,
Optimum frequency for Sines today is 13 MHz, despite that I got 94 % CDA.
Listening time: 09:37 - 10:40 UTC.
Very good with the Perseus and Windrad. SNR > 35 dB. One resync by a mode change of DW.
Bernd, DF9RB
Five solid hours. What more can I say?
Another test with the 1.7 meter active vertical antenna. Perfect result.
FritzWue
18-04-2008, 15:06
Solid reception here too:
Just perfect.
.... and another 3 hours long unattended log from this afternoon.
Hi all.
First test with R-390A on 13810 only 30min log.
100 minutes of perfect reception despite a little low antenna signal, not any better with the 12 meter wire antenna.
Log 80min today, but small test of my R-390A with Fast AGC time constant 0,015 sek . Slow AGC 5sek. and MVC AGC off. Signal stringth is same small QSB S9to S9+10db.
A two and half hour log with perfect results. The break at 09:37 must have been local.
Almost 4 h 50 min which would have been 100% CDA if ther hadn't been a mode change at 9:00 UTC. :cool:
More than three and a half hours of perfect reception. The log was mostly unattended.
Two periods of weaker signal caused some dropouts today.
Two logs, both with 100% CDA. The antenna for the first log was the 12 m long wire and for the second log I used the 35 mm long active antenna. Great results in both cases. The SNR curve seems to be even more stable with the 35 mm active antenna.
Perfect decoding of this TX for 1h45m.
More than two hours log, the first half with the modded PA0RDT active antenna with a 60 cm whip on top and the other half with the 12 meter long wire.
SNR was max. 34.04 dB at 10:02 UTC with the active antenna and 34.35 dB at 11:20 UTC with the 12 meter long wire.
A near 100% result.
FritzWue
02-05-2008, 15:03
Solid signal:
Solid signal. Only the mode change caused the 100% CDA to slip below perfect for this log.
Four hours solid decoding. :)
Only 1h 25min log today, and it is perfect.
A not so perfect log. I had the audio muted for a while, so I have no idea what happened around 12:17 UTC. The same goes for the break at 13:05 UTC.
Today perfect. The log was mostly unattended.
Perfect decoding for 5 hours, even when signal got weaker in the last hour.
Simone
Perfect except for a break (?) that might have been a local problem here.
Hi all.
Log last 40min from 13810 very good propagation om 13Mhz band from Sines.
Hi all.
I have compare 4 antenna on 13Mhz .From Sines.
Propagation is not so good .Only ionosphere influence DRM spectrum.
INV.V from start of log.
1 Aktiv antenna.
2 INV.V 2x10m .
3 Dipole 2x10m.
4 Indoor antenna.!!!! Low signal stringth S7 and Hi noise level from 2 PC. Only SNR go down , not Delay or doppler.
I can not see one difference between this antenna on DRM signal.
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