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carknue
10-01-2006, 06:57
Hi Jaques!

Nice signal this morning in Frankfurt ! S9 but good SNR. Better than 3995 at this moment!

sveron
10-01-2006, 09:39
Hi,

Less good results here closer to the transmitter and later in the day, but maybe due to more local QRM (I had to make the laptop run on batteries only, switch off all the 'energy-saving' lights and other QRM sources in the house to obtain this result).

But very good indeed if it is really low-powered !

73, de Stephane

simone
10-01-2006, 17:11
Salut Jacques,
I never managed to get more than this whenever I tried so far :(
But anyway it´s low power and not our target area, right now it is surprisingly good, S9+10, about 22dB SNR! but low audio bitrate.
Simone

GRUSON
10-01-2006, 17:17
Hi Carsten and Stéphane!

Well done, congratulations guys: first reports with only 1kW (linear transmitter with a 3CX 10000 tube and 31dB SNR) into a special 200 Ohms folded dipole at 0.25 Lambda with a take-off angle of 65° from Issoudun.

Not bad in Germany, not so good in Paris in the day; we were obliged to use 16QAM and 0.5 code rate in order to inprove realibility but Rfi programme is mainly speech and DW on 3995kHz is also using the same parameters...

Stéphane, please listen if possible at different hours of the day (or night!).

Regards / 73.

Jacques Gruson / F6AJW:)

GRUSON
10-01-2006, 17:24
Salut Simone,

Sorry, I have just sent my message and I got yours a few seconds after!

Keep on watching our frequency but we are really in QRP (low power) as I have no high power transmitter available for DRM; we have only one rotatable Alliss 2/2/0.3 antenna with a 500kW transmitter running AM only (which is QRO: high power !).

Regards.

jacques

:confused:

sveron
10-01-2006, 17:34
Hi,

There was too much QRM during the day, DRM noise barely audible on my Sony ICF SW7600G. I tested reception at the end of the afternoon : not so bad for this power, almost 30% audio.

Some signal dropouts due to some work on my laptop. Between 16:50 and 17:05 computer audio was plugged to my hi-fi system... this caused lower SNR and almost no audio reception.

I will try again during the next days, also during the night, avoiding all other operations on my laptop :-) . After 17:00 UT might also be interesting.

73, de Stephane

simone
10-01-2006, 17:41
Thanks Jacques, no problem, so far I never tried this frequency after dark (I guess I was too busy watching the interference from the Croatian DRM station on our MF AM transmission ;)), seems your frequency works quite good at night, here is an example of the impulse response a few minutes ago, will send a report later.
Simone

df9rb
10-01-2006, 18:13
Hello,

not too bad for 1 kW in South East Germany. I think correctly adapted parameters help for quite reliable reception under this conditions. Signal about S8 or 40 µV on my EWE-Antenna. Station on 3955 9+40, on 3975 9+30. At 18:00 Radio Taiwan started with same signal strength in AM. Both neighboring station can be heard now with splatter.

73 Bernd, DF9RB

simone
10-01-2006, 18:14
... and here is my report of the last 45min tonight
Simone

carknue
10-01-2006, 22:54
Hi Jacques,

log from this evening 19 to20 UTC. Quite bad results here because of co-channel interference and some very strong signals on 3975 and 3955.

PaulT
10-01-2006, 23:29
Hi,

Just a little bit of audio at the time of logging then eventually subsumed by noise, but very impressive considering the low power. At the time of monitoring, a clear frequency for my location.

(the log states tx as Juelich??)

Best Regards

Paul T

dk8cb
11-01-2006, 00:12
Quite good in Munich.

The impulse response looks quite ok here at 00:12 UTC, see screenshot.
SNR is peaking at 23.5 dB.

Roland

dk8cb
11-01-2006, 00:58
Hi,

the plot looks a bit shaky but the dropouts were of very short duration.
Signal was not strong however but very good considering the relatively low power.

Roland

F5NSL
11-01-2006, 12:48
Hi all,
here is my full log from last night from Bordeaux France.
Signal suddenly appeared strong at 7h20 this morning.

Eric
Sangean ATS909
External mixer
Dipole 2x10m
TP570E

F5NSL
11-01-2006, 12:49
And here is this morning's log - unattended.

Eric

simone
11-01-2006, 18:02
Salut Jacques, all,
not too bad during the last hour and much better than when I tried early this morning, see attachment
Simone

carknue
11-01-2006, 18:44
Hi Jacques,

really good results last night from 23:00 to 3:00. I think that at 3:00 some interfernces started.

carknue
11-01-2006, 18:54
And here are the complete results from today.

sveron
11-01-2006, 20:31
Hi,

For last night :

Very good results at the start, after resolving another QRM problem : phone line connected to the laptop produced carriers on 6172 and 6177 kHz...

After 23:45 UT, maybe some local QRM started. Computer logged frequency until batteries went off.

73, de Stephane

sveron
11-01-2006, 20:33
... of course it was not 6172 and 6177 but 3962 and 3967 kHz... :-)

Here's the channel impulse response diagram for last night.

sveron
11-01-2006, 20:42
Hi again,

For earlier today :

I wanted to try 17-18 UT but a complete power failure at my place between 16-17 UT gave me the idea to try to log 3965 without any virtual QRM in the neighborough... Luckily, batteries of the laptop were charged again.

I post it as a comparison with yesterday's listening. No main difference, even worse audio in these 'ideal' conditions, but one can see the same slow SNR rise... that is interesting.

73, de Stephane

carknue
11-01-2006, 20:53
No chance for the evening transmission. Strong co-channel interference.

F5NSL
11-01-2006, 23:22
Here is my unattended logging for the afternoon

F5NSL
11-01-2006, 23:29
And here is the evening hour. Actually the first 3 minutes before 19h were quite good, then QRM starting strong (carrier in the middle of the spectrum for the whole hour)

F5NSL
12-01-2006, 12:17
And here is this morning's log. Signal appeared at 7h34. Unattended after 8h30 (so can't exactly say how it goes and no level adjustment was done...)

df9rb
12-01-2006, 18:01
Hello,

logs from yesterday and today until 18:00

Bernd, DF9RB

F5NSL
12-01-2006, 18:33
This is the afternoon log. Unattended logging, so to be taken for what it is... The SNR's look lower than those I was getting (in general) last year from another home (-I've moved-). So may be I have local noise influence too...

F5NSL
13-01-2006, 12:29
This was the first morning hour. Propagation suddenly turns on at 7h21 here.

F5NSL
13-01-2006, 12:31
And this is the morning unattended log.

GRUSON
13-01-2006, 18:05
Thanks all for your very encouraging reports.

Serait-il possible d'avoir plus de reports de France; merci pour Bordeaux et Strasbourg!

Regards / 73.

Jacques Gruson:)

F5NSL
13-01-2006, 18:43
And here is this afternoon log - unattended. 73's Eric

carknue
13-01-2006, 19:13
Looks bad, but sounded nearly perfect this afternoon, as we know from DRMSWR logs.

df9rb
14-01-2006, 08:38
Hi all,

good until 8:00 then daylight attenuation too high. Signal in
the beginning 40 µV after 8:00 below 5 µV.

Bernd, DF9RB

Bob
15-01-2006, 11:18
Hi,
Very similar to Bernd - good reception for about 1 hour until 08:00.
regards
Bob

simone
15-01-2006, 14:15
Salut Jacques, all,
rather good last night until 03:00, see attachment
Simone

df9rb
15-01-2006, 21:16
Hi all,

conditions down shortly after 8:00 yesterday and today.

Bernd, DF9RB

simone
15-01-2006, 21:49
... and pretty good until 2000 this evening, see attachment
Simone

simone
19-01-2006, 06:10
Salut Jacques, all,
many dropouts last night, no reception from 0400, see attachment
Simone

F5NSL
19-01-2006, 23:24
Better SNR obtained by having today receiver on batteries...

F5NSL
19-01-2006, 23:25
morning log - unattended.

Digger
20-01-2006, 07:42
Hi all,

Too many switched power supplies around the house and other domestic QRM on this frequency unfortunately, at least with the antenna strung over the roof. Therefore there was no decoded sound. The screen shot was taken on 19th January just after 0700UTC.

Terje

Digger
20-01-2006, 16:32
Hi,

What a difference a change in the location of the antenna made! But HCJB on 3955 kHz killed ISSOUDUN at 1600 UT.

Surprisingly good reception for such low power over a pretty good distance.


73
Terje

GRUSON
20-01-2006, 16:45
Hi Simone, Eric, Terje, Bob, Bernd and all...

Thank you for your reports, not bad for "QRP" from Issoudun; could be better with 200 kW like DW but this is not for tomorrow...!

I can see on my side that propagation is not the same from one day to an other but Drm reception is Paris is not easy between about 11:00 and 15:00 UTC despite the low bit-rate but if we add some dB, it could be OK (more power...). I am a bit surprised by the european coverage (Germany, UK, Swiss...)

Regards / 73.

Jacques Gruson

Bob
20-01-2006, 21:15
Hi,
Obviously not great reception at this distance but some quite good periods (log is from 23:20 to 18:00 tonight).
regards
Bob

carknue
21-01-2006, 10:47
Hi Jacques,

some results fromthis morning. Signal dropped from S9 to S5-S7. That is still enough for good decooding, but the local interference causes some dropouts.

Digger
21-01-2006, 13:09
Salut Jacques

The same segment as Carsten's in Switzerland, just for comparison. Just now at 1310 UT there is no decoding and the S-meter rests around S2.

73
Terje

Bob
21-01-2006, 14:15
Hi all,
For comparison from the UK here is a segment covering the same time as Carsten and Terje.
regards
Bob

dk8cb
21-01-2006, 18:26
Not much audio in Munich.

Roland

carknue
21-01-2006, 18:58
Quite good listening this eveening, but some interference from very strong signal on 3955khz.

simone
21-01-2006, 20:54
Salut Jacques,
not so good today, see attachment
Simone

Digger
21-01-2006, 22:05
Hi Jacques,

Here's 690 minutes logging...
Approx. S-meter readings:

0825: S5-6
0930: S3-5
1130: S2
1515: S5
1715: S8-S9+5 dB
All UTC.

Terrible QRM from 3955 kHz at (at least) at 1730 and 1745 UTC.

73
Terje

dk8cb
21-01-2006, 23:19
Rather bad over here in Munich.

Roland

carknue
22-01-2006, 09:46
Hi Jacques,

most times quite good this night.

carknue
23-01-2006, 20:38
Results from last night.

simone
27-01-2006, 20:42
Salut Jacques, all,
not too bad in Germany today, see attachment
Simone

carknue
28-01-2006, 13:46
Quite good until 3 UTC last night.

carknue
28-01-2006, 13:49
It started at 6.37 UTC this morning. Then quite good.

carknue
28-01-2006, 20:00
Quite OK this evening.

simone
28-01-2006, 20:54
Salut Jacques, all,
good results for 3 hours last night, similar to Carstens report
Simone

mitajohn
29-01-2006, 08:44
Hi all,

You can't believe it. A weak signal from an 1 kW TX for France received here! Apart from the LoFi sound, it sounded better than it looks in the log.

John.


PS. I cannot explain why DRMSoft handles better the signal than Dream.

mitajohn
29-01-2006, 09:31
....And the spectrum to the above...

John.

Bob
29-01-2006, 09:46
Hi,
Surprisingly good reception with long periods of 100% decoding overnight.
regards
Bob

simone
29-01-2006, 10:11
Salut Jacques, all,
results from last night, some dropouts at 0245- 0330
Simone

carknue
29-01-2006, 20:09
Quite good results. Only one dropout audible.

Bob
31-01-2006, 20:48
Hi,
Quite a lot of decoding possible this evening here - in the first 20 minutes of the transmission from 19:00 - 20:00.
regards
Bob

Digger
02-02-2006, 08:38
Salut Jacques,

An hour's listening 100% decoded this morning.

73

Terje

sveron
03-02-2006, 16:39
Hello to all,

First, a good example of the slow fall of SNR and decoded audio, this morning.

Stephane

sveron
03-02-2006, 16:43
... Then, the slow rise of the SNR and decoded audio this afternoon. Good conditions of listening from 14:55 to 15:15 (programme 'La Danse des Mots', news, and the start of the programme about the Victor Hugo museum in Paris).

SNR peaked 18,4 dB at 15:12 UTC.

Stephane

sveron
03-02-2006, 16:45
... And an example of the Channel Impulse Response at 14:55 UTC, when conditions of listening began to be good.

73, de Stephane

simone
03-02-2006, 21:48
Salut Jacques,
here is a report from this morning with good results from the Swiss Alps (Valais) for a change
Simone

carknue
04-02-2006, 08:04
Results from last night.

df9rb
04-02-2006, 17:49
To early during the day for this frequency.

Bernd, DF9RB

sveron
04-02-2006, 23:53
Hello to all,

Almost perfect listening last night... Though I would make a remark for such 11kbps broadcast : it would be better producing all of them by phone :-) Journalist talking in studio gets harmonics and weird noise with the audio compression, that people talking on the phone (guests, correspondents) don't get.

I don't know anything about all of that, but maybe it's because of the different audio treatment for studio and phone sources ?

73, de Stephane

carknue
05-02-2006, 14:59
Really not bad for just one 1kW. Even at daylight there is a good reception possible here in Frankfurt. Dropouts are only caused by local interferences.

carknue
05-02-2006, 20:05
And once again nearly perfect this evening.

GRUSON
08-02-2006, 16:19
Thank you Simone, Carsten, Stéphane, Bernd, Terje,Bob, John and all for your various and interesting reports on our low power 3965 kHz Drm transmission.
Not yet received complains from US hams about QRM like for 3993 / 3995 kHz...!

For me, next week in China: HFCC A06.

Simone: have nice time in Valais, bonne fondue ou raclette!

Regards / 73.

Jacques Gruson:)

carknue
11-02-2006, 11:06
Very good last night, except between 3:00 and 3:30UTC. Maybe Inteference at this time.

simone
11-02-2006, 20:46
Salut Jacques,
quite good results last night until 0300, see attachment
Have a good trip to China!
Simone

carknue
15-02-2006, 19:03
Hi Jacques,

today a 19hrs log with signal strength in dBµV (green graph). Quite interesting.

Digger
16-02-2006, 09:12
Hi,

Very good through the night. The signal gradually weakened just before 09 UTC. No use logging after that.

Regards,

Terje

carknue
23-02-2006, 18:54
Very good this morning. Green graph is fieldstrength in dBµV.

carknue
24-02-2006, 21:06
Perfect this morning. Green graph is fieldstrength in dBµV.

simone
25-02-2006, 21:37
Salut Jacques,
best results between 1900- 2000 this evening with a rather weak signal, see attachment
Simone

mitajohn
26-02-2006, 08:09
Hi all,

A 1kW TX for France it was received in my area. I didn't excpect that! See the files.

John.

carknue
26-02-2006, 09:40
Again perfect this morning.

carknue
27-02-2006, 19:48
Once again perfect this morning.

carknue
28-02-2006, 19:12
And again perfect 30min.

simone
01-03-2006, 06:14
Salut Jacques, all,
quite good last night until 0240
Simone

carknue
01-03-2006, 19:36
Perfect this morning.

Digger
02-03-2006, 10:33
Hi,

A couple of hours with very good reception this morning from 0720 UTC.

Terje

carknue
02-03-2006, 19:11
Perfect 30 minutes this morning.

carknue
03-03-2006, 16:51
Once again perfect 30 minutes this morning.

carknue
04-03-2006, 13:13
Very good this morning.

Digger
04-03-2006, 13:18
Hi,
Perhaps I was too late getting up... Later my longwire was bugged down by snow...


Terje

df9rb
05-03-2006, 08:26
Hi all,

Log with fieldstrength. A few dBµV decide between audio and not.

Bernd, DF9RB

Digger
05-03-2006, 09:06
Hi,

Too late again.

Terje

Digger
06-03-2006, 09:22
Hi,

The first hour from 0700 UTC was very stable, then the signal became gradually weaker.

Terje

Digger
07-03-2006, 08:53
Hi,

Almost perfect from 0630 - 0810 UTC.

Terje

Digger
08-03-2006, 10:44
Hi,

The first hour and a half from 07 UTC was very stable, then again, the signal became gradually weaker.

Terje

GRUSON
09-03-2006, 17:25
Hi all,

Our 3965 kHz transmitter will be off air for a few days for maintenance (back next monday 13/03 or tuesday 14/03?).


Regards / 73.

Jacques

carknue
09-03-2006, 19:23
Hi Jacques,

quite good results yesterday.

simone
24-03-2006, 05:19
Salut Jacques, all,
not too bad until 0230 last night
Simone

GRUSON
30-03-2006, 17:51
Merci Simone!!!

Regards.

Jacques

Digger
31-03-2006, 11:48
Salut Jacques and all,

Quite good for a couple of hours this morning until the signal started to weaken.

I fiddled with an 18 dB gain broad band antenna amplifier towards the end. Interesting to see that the increase in the input signal is'nt very relevant to what you get back in form of decoded audio. The "quality" of the DRM signal seems to be much more important. When the channel impulse response is deteriorating, no amplifier can make up for it.


Terje

sveron
31-03-2006, 23:23
Hello to all,

It is interesting to see 3965 at 1900 UT now that I don't have interference from Biblis anymore. SNR is rising during the hour. I'll try 2000-2100 UT soon.

73, de Stephane

simone
01-04-2006, 12:09
Salut Jacques, all,
quite good agian until 0245 last night.
Simone

DRM-OM
09-04-2006, 20:32
(see 1909 log), taking into account the very low power this is better than many other DRM-"broadcasts" I've seen so far.

After 20:00h heavy qrm from 3955kHz (SNR vs. carrier shows significant drop on left side)

Janucha
15-04-2006, 11:51
Log at this night in Poland and of 21.03.2006

sveron
16-04-2006, 16:16
Hello to all,

Here will be the results of logs made in the house where I started shortwave listening, 10 years ago, in the country 85km north from Paris. A local powerline produces heavy noise on all shortwave bands, I noticed it when I was trying AM DX listening before (I have much better results in city center), now I see it is a catastroph for DRM listening.

My first attempt last august produced no results (0 audio) for a whole week, but I had just received my DWT and had only the long wire and let the laptop plugged on AC power.

Now I let the computer run on batteries only and use the Degen loop antennas. Results aren't great at all. The only DRM services I could listen (I mean really listen) were DW 6130, TDP 6015, RTL 5990 in the evening and DW 3995 (depending the hours !). No stable result at all for any of the other frequencies. I tried everything, antenna azimuth, indoor/outdoor, batteries/AC power (sometimes better)... There is still too much QRM from this power line. I can let the address to anyone who wanna try some test some day, because I think this place reflects the reception conditions that many listeners may have when they buy a DRM receiver.

So... I wanted to try QRP 3965 at this place, here are the first two logs :
3965 07/04/2006 0917-1012 UTC (batteries only)
3965 07/04/2006 1543-1722 UTC (batteries only)

the following in the next post...

sveron
16-04-2006, 16:19
... and the evening :

3965 07/04/2006 1940-2056 UTC (AC power)

I forgot : in the log #02, one can see the local sunset at exactly 16:42 UTC that produced this very good reception for a minute.

73, de Stephane

F6AJW
19-04-2006, 10:55
Very interesting Stephane...!

Could you try 25765 kHz from Meudon in your QTH North of Paris?

I managed to identify this transmission (in analog mode) when I was in Clermont sur Oise during a Ham expo in March;

Regards / 73.

Jacques Gruson

sveron
19-04-2006, 16:21
bonjour Jacques,

I tried to catch Meudon there, but QRN from power line increases with the frequency and it is absolutely a disaster in these bands (could not listen to 10m-band on my Sony ICF SW7600G for example). So no result so far, and I've left the place now.

Within a few months I will go again there, I will hopefully have my car so I will go away from the house and try to receive in better conditions and various places in Picardy. I will find interesting to try portable reception on various hills on the road southway to Paris. It will be a short test, due to the laptop's batteries :-)

By the way, I only explain the fact that this small power line by this house in the Compiègne area radiates so much around, that because power distribution is locally provided for decades by a small private company -the SICAE- instead than by the national EDF. Maybe SICAE don't have the same way of managing and controlling their power lines than EDF. I will try to learn about power line and QRN below 30 MHz.

73, de Stephane

simone
22-04-2006, 06:22
Salut Jacques, all,
results from last night, quite good until 0250
Simone

simone
23-04-2006, 10:13
Salut Jacques, all,
better than the night before
Simone

Andreas
07-05-2006, 13:50
some audio just after (local) sunset.

Considering the very high noise level in the lower bands at my QTH I am very glad to have heard anything at all.

dk8cb
09-05-2006, 08:44
I guess, I do not have the proper antenna for this frequency or should I try a matching network?

Roland

simone
14-05-2006, 18:20
Salut Jacques,all,
not so good this time
Simone

sveron
24-05-2006, 09:06
Hello,

Good start at 23:00 UT last night, with good audio, then fading away. Very good, considering that the reception was made with the laptop on AC power (batteries out).

73, de Stephane

simone
28-05-2006, 09:31
Salut Jacques, all,
not so good anymore, was similar the past nights :(
Simone

FritzWue
31-05-2006, 07:07
Bad audio quality, so I didn't listen.
Signal going down after 06:30 UTC here.

dk8cb
08-06-2006, 19:08
Salut Jacques et tous,

initially when I started logging, reception was good this morning but then daylight attenuation increased.

Roland

F6AJW
08-06-2006, 20:48
Hi Simone, Stéphane, Roland, Andreas, Fritz and other friends,

Thank you for sending me reports on 3965 kHz TDF Transmission (only 1 kW RMS into a dipole); not too good in this part of the year because of short nights. 25765 KhZ from Paris / Meudon could be interesting thanks to Sporadic E?

Best regards / 73.

Jacques

DE8MSH
15-07-2006, 07:20
Bonjour Jacques,

this is what I got:

Digger
17-07-2006, 12:07
Hi Jacques and all,

Here is a one hour report until the signal slowly weakened.


Terje

FritzWue
13-08-2006, 09:06
Propagation report, audio at 14 kbps sounds terrible, so ran it muted most of the time.
First report is with untuned dipole connected via a broadband balun, second report is with tuned antenna, which could not stop the decline of signal strength.

simone
28-08-2006, 15:10
Salut Jacques,
seems results improve again, now that the nights are longer :)
Simone

Janucha
28-08-2006, 21:53
log from 26.08.2006. It's only 1 kW but signal in Poland was received quite well. Is there old AM-transmitter which was transmited RFI in Polish language many years ago on the same frequency at 21 UTC?

simone
31-08-2006, 20:20
Salut Jacques,
good results last night.
Simone

GRUSON
06-09-2006, 15:43
Hi All!
Thanks for sending reports on TDF 3965 kHz DRM transmission, now improving with shorter days. We are using a dedicated linear transmitter and not the former transmitter used for AM to Poland some time ago (it was a 250 kW transmitter into a rotatable Alliss 2/2 antenna).

Regards.

Jacques Gruson

FritzWue
08-09-2006, 08:24
Unattended morning log, low bitrate -> poor audio quality:

simone
11-09-2006, 19:44
Salut Jacques,
rather good last night.
Simone

FritzWue
18-09-2006, 06:13
Unattended morning log, switched off the antenna attenuator a little late, low audio quality:

Digger
18-09-2006, 09:21
Hi,

... and here is an extension from the above log from 0616 UTC - 0823 UTC. The dark mornings are getting longer ...

Terje

Digger
20-09-2006, 08:52
Hi,

Compliments. Works very well until the Sun gets too strong.

Terje

GRUSON
20-09-2006, 09:02
Dear All,

I was in Issoudun yesterday19 september, we changed the modulation parameters to 64 QAM and r = 0.5 so now we have 17kb/s, Fritz will be happy!?

Regards.

Jacques Gruson

f1tay
20-09-2006, 20:33
Bonjour,
Voici un report de la réception du 3965 ici à Paris. a noter a partir de 20 h T.U. une forte interférence de la KBS (Corrée) en allemand relayé sur 3955 khz depuis la Grande-Bretagne. C'est sur que la réception de RFI est meilleur sur 89 Mhz que sur 3965 khz !
Pour info, lors des essais des semaines passées la réception de RFI sur 702 khz (depuis le Col de la Madonne) était trés bonne le soir à Paris (reçu parfaitement sur un portatif SONY ICF-SW7600GR à l'intérieur d'un appartement).

Par ailleur j'ai noté que depuis la mi-aout le DRM s'est fini depuis Meudon sur 25765 khz.

73 de Daniel

Digger
21-09-2006, 07:30
Hi,

Here is an overnight log. It should be noted that the Bandwidth Switch was in "M" instead of "W", which might have impaired the reception somewhat. My mistake. However, no trace of 89 MHz in Switzerland. :D

Terje

simone
21-09-2006, 12:28
Salut Jacques,
not too bad after 23:45 with the new configuration.
Simone

GRUSON
21-09-2006, 17:55
Hi Simone, Terje, Daniel from Paris and all!

Thanks for various reports on 3965 kHz transmission going better in relation with the current season change.

25775 kHz from Paris: authorisation is over now after 9 month tests; to come: new SFN tests.

DRM from Montsinery French Guyana: transmissions to restart in the coming days to USA, and in alternance to Europe.

Regards.

Jacques Gruson

Digger
22-09-2006, 13:49
Hi,

Last night's log from 22 UTC until 08 UTC.

Terje

Digger
23-09-2006, 07:42
Hi,

Obviously, I started the log too early last night. Last night's log from 23 UTC looks a lot better. There were two breaks during the night. I lost the signal more or less completely around 07 UTC. Quite good after all, thinking about the 1 kW output.

Terje

Digger
25-09-2006, 08:35
Hi

Just an hour long log from this morning.

Terje

Digger
26-09-2006, 13:16
Hi,

An unattended scheduled event start during the night. Seems not so good.

Terje

Digger
27-09-2006, 08:01
Hi,

An auto-started unattended log. Surprised to see the total loss of signal from about 0150 - 0430 UT last night.

Terje

sveron
27-09-2006, 19:50
Hello,

Not very good decoding here, always due to local interference (computer in the next room), though my computer itself was running on batteries and disconnected from hi-fi system. SNR was virtually high enough for a good reception.

73, de Stephane

Digger
28-09-2006, 11:25
Hi,

One hour from this morning. Good result.

Terje

Digger
04-10-2006, 11:36
Hi,

81 minutes with FR-101.

Terje

simone
10-10-2006, 08:39
Not bad last night, don´t know what caused the regular drop in SNR every half hour.
Simone

f1tay
11-10-2006, 15:07
Reception at Paris.
Daniel

Digger
14-10-2006, 08:49
Hi,

One hour was perfect; then the daylight is slowly making the reception problematic.


Terje

f1tay
14-10-2006, 18:32
Reception de jour à Paris.
Daniel

Digger
15-10-2006, 09:21
Hi,

Switched over just after 7 UTC and the reception was quite good again during the first hour. The last part suffered from drop-outs.

Terje

Digger
18-10-2006, 08:24
Hi,

Despite quite a strong signal, up to +50 dBµV, the reception was hampered by a weak Channel Impulse Response.

Terje

dk8cb
20-10-2006, 19:43
Much too weak in Munich tonight.

Roland

f1tay
21-10-2006, 18:08
Réception diurne à Paris.
Daniel

f1tay
22-10-2006, 11:29
Autre relevés d'écoute en soirée et de nuit. Bizaremment ici la réception est meilleur de jour.
Daniel

f1tay
22-10-2006, 11:31
... la suite...et la fin...

simone
23-10-2006, 15:35
Salut Jacques,
Signal is too weak in the morning, I also tried with the Roberts, similar results using the MP40/ external antenna, but at least got the text messages.
Simone

f1tay
29-10-2006, 17:33
Réception à Paris.
Daniel

Digger
30-10-2006, 07:24
Hi,

Only enough for 30 minutes and then the signal became too weak.


Terje

FritzWue
30-10-2006, 10:08
Logged a little longer here, quite a good result for 1 kW over that distance on 75m:

FritzWue
02-11-2006, 09:51
Again over 99% cda this morning:

f1tay
05-11-2006, 17:21
QRM par la station anglaise sur 3955 kHz.

simone
09-11-2006, 05:11
Salut Jacques,
very good results last night, what happened at 03:30 when signal strength and SNR dropped, maybe another antenna at the Tx site?
Simone

f1tay
12-11-2006, 01:56
La réception est bien meilleur sur 89 MHz que sur 3965 kHz !

Andreas
12-11-2006, 09:08
That's all I can get (presque rien - dommage).

FritzWue
14-11-2006, 07:12
Unattended log

Digger
14-11-2006, 10:02
Hi,

A short log from early this morning. I imagined it would have been better, but that's the way the cookie crumbles...

Terje

carknue
17-11-2006, 09:38
Quite good results in the night, except 30 minutes.

f1tay
18-11-2006, 01:42
Reception de nuit à Paris.

f1tay
20-11-2006, 15:34
Réception diurne à Paris.
Daniel

f1tay
28-11-2006, 00:51
Réception nocturne à Paris.

f1tay
28-11-2006, 11:21
Mauvaise réception à Paris en ce moment.
Daniel

f1tay
02-12-2006, 20:07
Réception à Paris a la tombée de la nuit.
Daniel

f1tay
10-12-2006, 14:26
Réception à Paris.
Daniel

FritzWue
15-12-2006, 17:55
Near Gelsenkirchen-A2-A31-Gescher
most of the time over 160... :D

df9rb
17-12-2006, 08:01
Reception without the very strong neigbours was perfect.

Bernd , DF9RB

f1tay
16-01-2007, 17:53
Réception à Paris.
Daniel

simone
19-01-2007, 05:03
Better than many nights lately, interference after 02:45, label has changed, now reading RFI.
Simone

df9rb
21-01-2007, 08:58
Hi all,

quite goode for a 1 kW TX 800 km away.

Bernd, DF9RB

simone
25-01-2007, 05:22
Not too bad last night, except a half hour period without audio decoding, I guess due to interference.
Simone

Digger
25-01-2007, 09:49
Switched on at 0710 UTC this morning. The signal was strong and decoding was perfect.

S-Meter readings:
0710 UTC S9 +25 dB
0730 UTC S9 +30 dB (58 dBµV)
0830 UTC S9 +5 dB
0900 UTC S7 - S9 +5 dB (25 - 34 dBµV)

The dBµV values were recorded by substituting the antenna with a signal generator.

After 09 UT the signal dropped with many dropouts.

FritzWue
26-01-2007, 07:25
Gescher-A31-A30-Osnabrueck

GRUSON
31-01-2007, 18:06
Hi Simone and All,

Thanks for reports...

Regards.

Jacques Gruson

f1tay
04-02-2007, 12:50
Réception de jour à Paris.
A noter que c'est maintenant RFI qui est annoncé et non plus TDF.
RFI vient'il de découvrir le DRM ?
Daniel

simone
05-02-2007, 06:16
Salut Jacques,
not bad last night from 01:00- 03:15, even better results last week in the Swiss Alps but those results were lost due to a bug in a recent version of Dream, so no logfile:(
Simone

f1tay
06-02-2007, 18:02
Réception à Paris à la tombée de la nuit.
Daniel

carknue
11-02-2007, 08:39
Results from last night.

simone
13-02-2007, 05:06
Not too bad last night.
Simone

GRUSON
14-02-2007, 09:47
Thanks Simone, Carsten, Daniel and All for reports.

Regards / 73.

jacques

Digger
20-02-2007, 11:49
Very good this morning.

simone
21-02-2007, 16:32
Quite good results last night.
Simone

f1tay
24-02-2007, 13:03
Réception à Paris à midi.
Daniel

f1tay
27-02-2007, 19:20
Réception à Paris à la tombée de la nuit.
Daniel

FritzWue
27-02-2007, 22:39
Coesfeld-B525-A43-A1-Ladbergen-B475-Glandorf

simone
01-03-2007, 05:16
Very good results until 02:40, seemed there was no DRM transmission the night before.
Simone

f1tay
03-03-2007, 11:57
Réception à midi.
Daniel

f1tay
04-03-2007, 14:18
Réception à Paris, je pense par onde du sol.
Daniel

f1tay
05-03-2007, 20:25
Réception à Paris a la tombée de la nuit.
Daniel

f1tay
05-03-2007, 20:32
Réception en soirée à Paris.
De 18h à 19 h T.U. QRM par Radio Europe Libre (RFE) en roumain sur 3965 kHz.
A partir de 19 h T.U. QRM par la KBS en allemand sur 3955 kHz.
Daniel

simone
06-03-2007, 18:34
Salut Jacques,
great results last night.
Simone

f1tay
12-03-2007, 20:20
Un petit report de Paris.
Daniel

GRUSON
13-03-2007, 09:01
Merci Simone et Daniel.

Jacques

Digger
14-03-2007, 09:50
A very stable reception from 0632-0810 UTC. After that I switched to a South American TX around 0826.

simone
15-03-2007, 05:18
Great results last night.
@ Jacques: Has the schedule been changed (thought it starts at 2300)?
Simone

Digger
15-03-2007, 13:08
A little bit weaker this morning towards the end of the log.

Digger
19-03-2007, 09:27
Even a little bit weaker this morning again...

simone
19-03-2007, 22:22
Very good results last night apart from one deep dip at 00:30 (no idea what happened)
Simone

simone
28-03-2007, 20:16
Good results form 23:50 last night.
Simone

Digger
04-04-2007, 12:20
In parallel to the MR I logged TDF this morning for 38 minutes, then I switched to 6.175 MHz. That is the reason for this relatively short but very good log.

simone
05-04-2007, 04:05
Looks like there are some Tx problems causing breaks in transmission, good results when there was a signal, again no signal right now.
Simone

FritzWue
07-04-2007, 10:01
Unattended overnight log

FritzWue
08-04-2007, 19:58
Unattended afternoon log

Digger
10-04-2007, 08:39
Very good reception for two hours here in the morning.

f1tay
14-04-2007, 19:46
Réception à Paris dans l'après midi sous une chaleur tropicale (plus de 25 °).
Daniel

Digger
20-04-2007, 06:49
Very good reception for about one hour here in the morning.

simone
24-04-2007, 15:40
Good results until 0250 last night.
Simone

f1tay
29-04-2007, 11:45
Réception diurne à Paris.
Daniel

f1tay
13-05-2007, 18:26
Essais de réception de jour à Paris.
Daniel

f1tay
18-05-2007, 12:10
Mauvaise réception de nuit à Paris.
Daniel

f1tay
29-05-2007, 18:55
Réception à Paris.
Daniel

carknue
31-05-2007, 09:12
Results from last night in Frankfurt.

FritzWue
15-06-2007, 12:01
Impulse response getting better at daytime.

f1tay
16-06-2007, 11:54
Signal à Paris vers midi.
Daniel

FritzWue
17-06-2007, 07:54
Not bad at 1 kW power level. :)
The northwestern half of my dipole as L-antenna seems to give a little better SNR than the full dipole with parallel wire feeder.

FritzWue
14-07-2007, 16:03
Some lightning crashes and the pulses of the electric fence of the nearby farm are reducing the available SNR.

FritzWue
21-07-2007, 18:28
noise and interference

F10300
22-07-2007, 11:28
Good result at the begining (1017TU), but the propagation decreased and reduced the quality of the transmission even for a closest station (Issoudun is at less than 40 km from home !!).

Michel

33059

FritzWue
25-07-2007, 05:33
Unattended overnight log.
DRM on 75m at nighttime does not work well and in the morning there is this terrible AM signal 10 kHz down.

F10300
27-07-2007, 07:40
AS usual, the propagation decreases when the sun shines. In addition, it was a long QSB period. After this record, the SNR was better !

Michel

33196

f1tay
28-07-2007, 00:05
Bonne réception cette nuit à Paris.
Daniel

FritzWue
28-07-2007, 08:23
The best snr is achieved with only one wire in L-configuration.

FritzWue
22-08-2007, 11:32
Today more summerlike propagation conditions.

FritzWue
18-09-2007, 21:26
Gescher-A31-passing a tailback via Gladbeck-A2-Dortmund

Digger
26-09-2007, 07:22
A little more than one hour from this morning.

FritzWue
29-09-2007, 20:04
Impulse response looked terrible but demodulation was OK.
The system clock was 4 minutes late.

f1tay
30-09-2007, 17:21
8 days hours of reception at Paris.
Daniel

F6AJW
30-09-2007, 17:50
seems like Romainville Tx was not working, Daniel?

Jacques

Digger
01-10-2007, 08:58
The first 70 minutes from 06 UTC were quite good, then the it gradually got worse with the increasing daylight.

GRUSON
01-10-2007, 09:31
Sorry, I made a mistake in my last message which was about SFN 999 kHz.

Thanks to Terje, Fritz, Daniel and Michel for sending reports.

Regards / 73.

Jacques

FritzWue
13-10-2007, 10:56
Only 1kW and good until 09:00 UTC with inverted L antenna pointing northwest, a little weaker on the T-antenna, and no audio with the dipole.

F10300
13-10-2007, 13:01
Salut la Liste

Hello everybody,

Please find a long listening report from the center of France (41 km from Issoudun !!!!).

No comment !

Best regards

Michel

Digger
29-10-2007, 10:23
Here is a 55 minutes not so good log.

simone
01-11-2007, 08:02
Results from last night, had not tried that for a while (not much chance to get a signal during summer).
Simone

df9rb
01-11-2007, 08:51
Quite good for this low power TX in South East Germany.

Bernd, DF9RB

Ant-SWL
01-11-2007, 11:13
Unattended overnight log.
Not bad between 2330-0430 UTC. I´m not sure, but later maybe local interference are the problem.

F6AJW
01-11-2007, 11:13
Salut Simone, Bernd and All,

Not too bad... I have asked colleagues in ISS to change bit rate to 14 kb/s in order to improve receiving conditions realibility (16 QAM, r=0,6). Some of you will not be happy because of impaired audio quality; sorry for that!

Jacques

F6AJW
01-11-2007, 11:16
Salut Andy,

Quite good near Munich! Sorry I got your message after sending mine...

Jacques

Digger
02-11-2007, 06:52
An unattended overnight log. The "before-dawn-hole" is present, just like the 3.995 MHz from W-tal used to look. Otherwise very stable during the night. Unfortunately, around 0630 UTC severe splatter from a Dutch AM service with a signal 40-45 dB stronger than RFI 10 kHz down ruined the reception. Switching the RX to a slightly narrower 455 kHz IF filter helped a bit.

f1tay
02-11-2007, 16:15
Deux heures de réception diurne à Paris.
Daniel