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restored part of the thread (http://www.stoepplernet.de/drm/forum1512/forum594restored.htm)
(sorry, not all links work yet)
Simone
Hi all,
here is an example (last Friday) of the situation on 594 kHz, no chance to receive hr info at home due to the collision with Glas Hrvatske :(
I am still interested to hear about reception of hr info from listeners in Hessen and other parts of Germany, please send reports/ observations by e mail (address in the attachment)
And thanks to everyone who already sent in reports!
Simone
Hi Simone,
no problems with hr info in Frankfurt;)
some more information about HRT:
this DRM test transmission originates from a transmitter site 30km from Zagreb, currently DRM TX outputpower is 10 kW, target area is Croatia,
using the same antenna as the 1125 kHz AM transmission.
@Carsten: good to hear hr info is OK in Frankfurt, our measurements also showed good reception in the Frankfurt area (but only there :(),
btw DRM calc shows Tx site Osijek, should be Deanovec (http://www.hrt.hr/oiv/deanovec/index.html)
Simone
This page (http://www.hrt.hr/oiv/deanovec/danas.html) gives Osijek as the TX site for 594 kHz, not Deanovec.
Roland
Hi Roland,
I know and I could tell you a lot more pages with incorrect/ not updated information on the internet!
Simone
Hi,
I receive the Croatian DRM transmission here in Stockholm, but no audio. Time: 18:40 UTC.
Hi all,
here is a 40 min log in the early evening, usually the signal gets stronger after 2100.
But even at this time it was no fun to listen to hr info.
Simone
Hi all,
some audio deoding this morning from Croatia before sunrise, more "DRM noise" than audio from hr info in analogue mode :(
Simone
radiomann
28-12-2005, 22:22
A very short log from Christmas Eve.
Paul
Funkerberg
28-12-2005, 23:25
HRT this evening with a strong signal, HR info can hardly be heard behind the DRM noise.
With the loop, HRT cannot be nulled out. :-(
Many greetings Rainer
Hi,
when I tuned in, the voice of Croatia carried news in english, later followed by news in spanish. Signal seemed to come from all directions and by turning the ferrite antenna, I could find a position where hr info was weak and where the DRM signal was strong at the same time.
Later, with the programme again in croatian, the DRM signal lost strength as if less power was used. :confused:
Roland
mitajohn
30-12-2005, 00:16
Hi all,
Here is a 60 mins result on 594 kHz, not too bad, both audio received.
John.
Periods with audio were shorter today than they were yesterday.
Roland
Hi all,
last night I checked again the situation with the interference from Croatia, some audio decoding but even with only 7-8 dB SNR no fun to listen to hr- info in AM, see attachment
Originally posted by simone
last night I checked again the situation with the interference from Croatia, some audio decoding but even with only 7-8 dB SNR
But so far, we have always seen it the other way round, ie such that DRM is what we want and that the AM signal is the interferer. :D
Roland
A bit of audio at times with the ferrite antenna turned to minimize HR Info.
Roland
Hi Simone and all,
yesterday evening i monitored 594. Glas Hrvatske was quite strong. 40% audio. No real chance to "decode" HR-Info :-(.
73, Daniel
Hi Daniel, all,
also a strong signal here in Hessen last night, nearly perfect decoding for the first 15min of my log, of course not much from hr-info :(
Simone
Hi all,
I would be interested in observations/ results on this frequency from listeners especially in the southern part of Hessen but also other parts of Germany tomorrow night:
Jan 10th: 0005- 0200 CET
Besides logfiles of this period I am also interested in information about signal strength (compared to signal strength before local midnight). Please send information to my e mail address, mentioned in some posts above.
Thanks in advance, Simone
Hi Simone,
find attached the complete log from last night. I will monitor tonight again.
73, Daniel
Originally posted by simone
I would be interested in observations/ results on this frequency from listeners especially in the southern part of Hessen but also other parts of Germany tomorrow night:
Jan 10th: 0005- 0200 CET
Besides logfiles of this period I am also interested in information about signal strength (compared to signal strength before local midnight). Please send information to my e mail address, mentioned in some posts above.
Should the receiver's antenna be located to maximize hr-info or Glas Hrvatske?
Roland
Hi Daniel,
thanks for the report, maybe you can post a comparison with results of tonight tomorrow, also please send me the logfiles of both nights.
@ Roland, for the time period mentioned above please maximize signal of HRT, but I would appreciate any observations with directional antennas concerning signal strength before and after this period.
So far several listeneres mentioned that they are not able to null out HRT.
Simone
Here is my report with the ferrite antenna turned to maximize signal to noise ratio for the DRM signal. There was local interference from my neighbour's lighting system at the beginning as well. The DRM signal also had long periods with fade-outs.
Roland
Hi Simone,
no chance of any audio here in Frankfurt. There was still a S9+25dB AM signal. The DRM Signal looked quite weak here. Much weaker than Radio Vatican.
Hi all,
some audio near Frankfurt, see attachment
Simone
... and further NE of Frankfurt a stronger signal from HRT and more audio decoding during the same time, AM signal was about 20-25 dB stronger than the DRM signal
Simone
PS: They was again music on the second service using HVXC encoding!
Hi Simone and all,
And here comes the result from "South of Hessen". Hopefully not too late.
For comparison i added the SNR curve from the night before.
@Simone: I will send you the log files by mail
73, Daniel
Hi Daniel,
thanks for the results, quite interesting! And donīt worry, it is not too late, I had a day off today :)
Simone
Hello,
quite good the last minutes until TX OFF with the ALA1530 set to minimum towards HR-INFO.
Bernd
Thanks Bernd for your post, I have not seen any complaints from hr-info listeners yet, but this morning during the news at 08:00- 08:05 I noticed interference from the Croatian station for the first time this winter. Here in Hessen I had about 8 dB SNR from DRM, nothing after 08:05, I did not check this afternoon.
Simone
ID has changed since simone received it many months ago ...
Hi andimik,
can you receive hr-info in AM before the start of the Croatian DRM transmission?
Simone
Yes, hr info can be heard here (weak, but understandable) in the morning (car radio) and even after 8:00 local time (--> of course then DRM is nearly impossible, but I had luck, see above).
But I have to tell you, that I don't have an antenna for MW, I only use 2m extension cable (3,5 mm jack), my Degen 1103 antenna was not plugged in for 594 DRM (too much noise instead of good reception).
Hi,
No audio, but the Station ID was clearly visible at 14:54 UTC.
Some interference from Glas Hrvatske like the past years ;(
Simone
Any improvements due to the analog switch off of Hessischer Rundfunk (hr) from Germany?
Any improvements due to the analog switch off of Hessischer Rundfunk (hr) from Germany?
Hi andimik,
I have not noticed any interference from the Croatian station for the past two weeks or so, seems they are off air too, but have not heard officially that they have stopped their DRM tests.
Simone
Ok, I'll check tomorrow if I can hear the typical DRM sound ...
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